Help With Control-changing effects in Multiplayer
Asked by lil_cheez 4 years ago
Hello everyone!
I play a lot of multiplayer casual games with my friends and I always have problems when a player who had steal other player's stuff leaves the game.
As I am one of the most experienced players (altought I have always been playing casually and barely enter a FNM), usually I am asked rules questions, and I need help memorizing this.
What exactly happens with permanents owned by other players under control of a player who has left the game?
I read rule 800.4a and it states some examples:
- If I control some permanent via
Act of Treason
-like effects or
Control Magic
-like effects, as I leave the game that permanent reverts back to its controller
- If I control some permenent via
Bribery
-like effects, as I leave the game that permanent is exiled.
How exactly does this happen? What is the difference? How can I memorize that to apply to different cards with similar abilities (like Nightveil Specter )?
Thanks in advance everyone, I hope I made myself clear and made the question in the right place
Lil Cheez
The first effect, for cards like Act of Treason , is used when Player A originally controlled the creature and Player B took it. Think of it this way--if they lose the game, the effect that gave them power over that object goes away, so the control reverts back to the object's prior controller.
Cards like Bribery do not change control of the creature. Player A might be the owner of the card, but they never controlled it. So, when Player B, who controls the object, loses the game, there is no other controller for the object to return to.
For Nightveil Specter , whoever controls Nightveil Specter can cast any of the cards exiled by it, regardless of who controlled Nightveil Specter when the card was exiled.
Also, important to note, Xantcha, Sleeper Agent has a control changing effect ("an opponent of your choice gains control of it.") So, when her controller loses the game, if that controller is not her owner, she will revert to her owner's control. That's one that trips up a lot of people, so I like to specifically mention it.
May 22, 2019 3:47 p.m. Edited.
To simplify it a lot, if it helps -
If you controlled it last before the player that loses, you get it back.
If the player that left the game was the only controller of that creature, it goes to exile.
Raging_Squiggle says... #1
If you gained control of an opponent’s permanent from any zone other than the battlefield, and you left the game, that permanent would be exiled.
If you gained control of an opponent’s permanent from the battlefield and you left the game, control would revert back to whomever last controlled it.
May 22, 2019 3:42 p.m.