NEW Liliana, the Last Hope
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Posted on June 22, 2016, 6:32 p.m. by DrFunk27
Real or Fake?
EDIT:Apparently it's been debunked as fake but I've yet to see a 100% confirmation.
Worse than Veil but better than healer. The -2 ability loses to hexproof or targetted abilities, but this could be good in a Mono deck. I don't see it making a huge jump into Modern, but that ultimate though!
ninjaclevs13 says... #3
I feel like it's just eh, the plus is maybe ok, the minus is probably good, the ultimate dies to Pyroclasm and other wipes but seems cool
June 22, 2016 7:50 p.m.
krishawnical says... #5
Arcum Dagsson has targeted sacrifice, and is worded identically
June 22, 2016 8:14 p.m.
"Exile all graveyards" isn't how they word that anymore.
June 22, 2016 8:21 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #7
Yes it is?
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We're at the point in Magic's history where I just believe any and every card leaked like this, so to me this is 99% the liliana we will be receiving.
Also, the targeted sacrifice makes it real easy to get rid of a certain noodly creature type that tends to be indestructible.
June 22, 2016 8:43 p.m. Edited.
June 22, 2016 8:52 p.m.
Everything about this card feels real to me except for the ultimate. Fifty Zombies? I feel like it would be twenty or something. Better yet, why not "Exile all cards in all graveyards. For each card exiled this way, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield"? It just seems very wonky to me. The +1 and -3 are awesome, however.
Also, is it just me, or does the text look really strange? If someone could link a real Planeswalker with its text looking like that, I'd have more reason to believe this leak.
June 22, 2016 9:37 p.m.
Shouldn't it say "Exile all cards from all graveyards" or "each player exiles all cards from his or her graveyard" rather than just "Exile all graveyards"?
That reason alone makes me think it's fake. As for 50 tokens, I've seen broken cards before.
June 22, 2016 10:12 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #11
Its at the very least a mock up. I have a hard time believing the advertising art for Eldritch Moon would be on a card. That being said I don't buy it, and if you can use the EMA Relic of Progenitus as an example, "exile all cards from all graveyards" is more the precedent to expect.
June 22, 2016 10:19 p.m. Edited.
Also note that the art doesn't extend below the type line.
June 22, 2016 11:35 p.m.
readerrw07 says... #14
Promo art on the actual card? Hahaha no
Also as stated, the artwork doesnt extend below the art window, which gives it away since every planeswalker has the test-box be just a little less than opaque so the rest of the art can just barely be seen.
Also lol fifty zombies
June 23, 2016 2:26 a.m.
Idk one way or the other, but for anyone doubting 50 zombies, remember G/W Ajani gives 100 life, so I wouldn't say the ultimate is a reason to call it a definite fake.
June 23, 2016 2:51 a.m.
Fake because:
- set symbol is off (could be just the angle)
- Art is not popping out of the frame
- This art is highly unlikely to be on a card.
- The text on the third ability is not correctly templated. Fifty would normally be written out as a number.
- The first ability cares about swamps, which was admitted to be a developmental mistake on Liliana of the Dark Realms.
- The font of the card name is not Beleren.
June 23, 2016 6:04 a.m.
Isn't her collector number also way too early to be a black card? I can't tell clearly, but it definitely looks like 51 to me.
June 23, 2016 9:42 a.m.
pizzagod13 says... #18
The art is actually taken from the original spoiler image which I doubt they would put on a card. Also why would Lili want to help that isn't her style
June 23, 2016 1:49 p.m.
pizzagod13 If she doesn't help, Innistrad is destroyed. Also, I'm sure she has selfish reasons for keeping Jace and the others alive.
June 23, 2016 1:51 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #20
I am certain that this card is fake, because the wording on the final ability is incorrect; it should say "exile all cards from all graveyards," and fifty tokens is simply too many for a single effect to generate, especially one that does not require any mana to use and could theoretically be used multiple times.
June 24, 2016 9:34 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #21
I agree that the card's art and the templating of the final ability seem to have problems. I'm also doubtful because it isn't posted up on Mythic Spoiler yet, and they'll freakin post anything.
June 24, 2016 10:54 a.m.
Gem_Raider says... #22
Notice how through the text box, you cannot see the art, whereas with real planeswalkers, you can. Also, the ultimate is worded incorrectly. It should be "exile all cards from all graveyards." It is likely a fake. PizzaGod, this should explain why she helps. I have also heard a LOT of people saying that Liliana's art was going to be the Eldritch moon promotional art.
Eldritch Moon Trailer Show
51/205 collecter number is kind of early for black.The foil on it looks fake.The art on it is really from Tyler Jacobson.
June 24, 2016 1:16 p.m.
pizzagod13 says... #23
Ya I didn't see the trailer when I posted that but seems out of character for her to help, like she could just find another world. I guess she still gots the love fever for Jace...
June 24, 2016 10:18 p.m.
Sovereign42 says... #24
Fake, card number on here reads 091/205, but Graf Rats on WoTC website is 091/205.
July 4, 2016 8:33 a.m.
mathimus55 says... #25
New Lili just spoiled, the only thing this fake had right was the name.
capriom85 says... #2
I wish it was real! The ultimate seems like a recycled version of Sorin's ultimate. Probably not in the same set. The -3 seems OP. +1 seems ok.
June 22, 2016 7:12 p.m.