Brainstorming Rishkar-Counters or No?

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Posted on Jan. 3, 2017, 4:15 p.m. by Phaetion

So, as everyone knows, this guy got spoiled earlier today:

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My first instinct is that this card finally heralds the perfect choice to lead a Mono-Green +1/+1 counter matters deck. However, it might have more superior uses (cough Elves cough).

Do you think that a +1/+1 counter deck with this guy at the helm is feasible? What would I have to do to abuse that second ability (I know a lot of tokens/creatures is required)?

DeathChant17 says... #2

What do you not like about Ezuri, Renegade Leader?

January 3, 2017 4:31 p.m.

Phaetion says... #3

DeathChant17: I just don't like Elf Tribal. I don't know why but I just don't. Druids, as much as I want to like them, play similarly.

January 3, 2017 4:35 p.m.

DeathChant17 says... #4

Oh, I see, I misunderstood your cough cough up there.

I would assume whether or not you run Rishkar, you can make a mean mono green counters deck that wouldn't miss him.

Green has plenty of good ways to ramp without his ability and unless you are playing evolve or some simic build where everything gets counters anyway, I don't see this new guy being very useful.

What were your original thoughts when you saw him?

January 3, 2017 4:47 p.m.

Phaetion says... #5

DeathChant17: My original thought was that Rishkar was finally the mono-green legend that can spearhead a deck built on +1/+1 counters. The other options:

Jugan, the Rising Star: He has to go to the graveyard to get his effect.

Polukranos, World Eater: I see him more with hydra tribal than +1/+1 counter matters, though both is possible (just not my goal).

Sekki, Seasons' Guide: Judging by what I see on EDHREC, his build doesn't point towards +1/+1 counters.

Rishkar, I felt, opened a new door for such a deck to take shape and seemed much superior to the other options. The deck is possible but the big question is: Who will be the legend of choice?

January 3, 2017 6:03 p.m.

DeathChant17 says... #6

Make a mono green counters deck. Then use those counters to beef up Lady Zhurong, Warrior Queen. Win by commander damage.

Is there a reason you want to go this route? Route specifically being mono green w/ +1/+1 counters?

The only way I see Rishkar being cool at the helm is if you got a way to blink him or at least return him to your hand repeatedly... something like Wirewood Symbiote's ability, just not so slow.

January 3, 2017 6:41 p.m.

Phaetion says... #7

Ehh, I don't like voltron though. Building and using Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas taught me that lesson.

I want to go this route because I have a "cube" that's mono-green themed and I build decks from it. A +1/+1 counters deck is a deck type missing in my repertoire.

January 3, 2017 6:49 p.m.

Dredge4life says... #8

(Cough, cough Mazirek, cough.)

January 4, 2017 7:17 a.m.

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