Rules question: Blinking Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward
Asked by bohemen86 1 year ago
When blinking Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward with Cloudshift, what enters the battlefield first, permanents exiled with Abdel or Abdel himself?
griffstick says... #3
Notably when Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward enters from Cloudshift the enters trigger will be the first trigger to resolve on the stack then the leaves trigger will resolve
June 29, 2022 3:15 p.m. Edited.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #4
Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward has a trigger with a duration like Banishing Light and Banisher Priest, not an ETB and a LTB like Oblivion Ring and Fiend Hunter. The effect ends and the permanents are returned as soon as Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward leaves the battlefield. This is not a trigger and doesn't use the stack. The exiled permanents will be returned before Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward re-enters the battlefield and can be targeted with the new ETB to be exiled again if you wish.
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June 29, 2022 5:58 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
Gidgetimer has the correct answer and explanation here. The exiled permanent returns immediately after Abdel leaves the battlefield.
June 30, 2022 8:56 a.m. Edited.
Rhadamanthus says... #7
bohemen86: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any further follow-ups or corrections to be made, I marked the most correct one as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question.
July 6, 2022 3:53 p.m.
Sorry for the extreme late answer, just read the irst answer and took it for good fish. I will use the Q&A next time and mark my answer.
Thanks alot for clearing up my question Gidgetimer!
July 14, 2022 5:24 p.m.
Follow up question. In the scenario of my original question, if I have a Wall of Omens exiled with Abdel which will re-enter the battlefield when Abdel is hit by Cloudshift, will the ETB of Wall of Omens trigger before Cloudshift has resolved?
If not, can I stack the ETB triggers from all the entering cards as I want together with Abdels ETB? In this simple example choose to draw with Omens before Abdel exiles it again?
July 14, 2022 6:19 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #10
Wall of Omens will trigger during the Cloudshift resolution, but it will wait until the next time a player receives priority to go on the stack. When the active player would receive priority both the Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward trigger and the Wall of Omens trigger will go on the stack, and since you control both you will decide the order they go on the stack and therefore resolve.
The order won't really matter though since abilities, once triggered/activated, exist independently of their sources and you will still draw the card from Wall of Omens entering the battlefield even if it has since left.
griffstick says... #1
Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward enters first, because the spell has to fully resolve befor anything on the stack resolve
June 29, 2022 1:23 p.m.