Progenitor Mimic and Sakashima of a Thousand Faces
Asked by Keruvinde 3 years ago
Is it possible to use the token created by Progenitor Mimic copying Sakashima of a Thousand Faces to then have the token Sakashima become another Progenitor Mimic?
I still don’t fully understand the wording on progenitor mimic. Specifically “if this creature isn’t a token”. Is it talking about progenitor mimic’s target can’t be a token? Or it can’t be a token itself such as if I had used Rite of Replication to make multiple progenitor mimics?
To try to reword that weird sentence:
If you played Sakashima without having it copy anything (so it's just a Sakashima) then cloning it with Progenitor Mimic will give you a Sakashima with the Progenitor Mimic make copies of itself ability. These copies will be more Sakashimas, which means they can enter the battlefield as copies of something else. If you decide to copy the Progenitor Mimic, they'll still be Sakashimas because they were already copies of Progenitor Mimic (which is a copy of Sakashima). When a creature becomes a clone of another creature, that overwrites all of the original text on the card (unless they explicitly say they keep certain things, like Mimic and Sakashima both do).
The only difference is they'll have the ability "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this creature isn't a token, create a token that's a copy of this creature" twice and "The legend rule doesn't apply to permanents you control" twice, all of which are redundant. The duplication ability won't work because it is a token.
With that said, there is one way to take advantage of this: Flickering the original Sakashima or the original Progenitor Mimic. If one comes back into play, you can make it a copy of a Progenitor Mimic copy token, which is a Sakashima except it has the "if this isn't a token, copy it at the beginning of your upkeep" ability twice. If you kept on looping the new Progenitor Mimic tokens as copies of the last one that was made, they'd keep stacking that ability up over and over; a new clone would get that many stacks of the ability and also not be a token, meaning it would make that many copies of itself per turn.
If your opponents let you do that (given that this move takes like three to five turns to pull off and your Progenitor Mimic has to survive the whole time as a 3/1 with no inherent protection) they deserve to lose.
January 3, 2021 11:42 p.m.
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Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
It depends on if the nontoken Sakashima is already copying something. If it is then both Progenitor Mimic and the copy made by it are what Sakashima was copying. If the nontoken Sakashima is just itself, then you would be able to have your token copy copy the Progenitor Mimic copy, which would still be a Sakashima.
I know that last sentence is worded weirdly, it is the only way I could think of to say that copying the Progenitor Mimic will only give you a Sakashima with extra mimic abilities.
The wording on Progenitor Mimic is referring to if the Mimic itself is a token. It is so that you create one additional copy per turn, instead of growing exponentially like Scute Swarm does.
January 3, 2021 8:44 a.m.