Multiplayer & Sudden disappearance

Asked by Sizzlewump 11 years ago

So from what people are telling me on here about 8.04c rules, Sudden Disappearance is about the best rage-quit move a player can make? In other words if my opponent casts Sudden Disappearance on me and quits the game or just loses somehow before his end step, then my nonland permanents just stay exiled for the rest of the game?? I'm thinking about abusing that to be a dick. Forget about Detention Sphere . This is much worse.

megawurmple says... #1

I'm pretty sure that the delayed trigger on Sudden Disappearance would fail to go on the stack due to the rule you cited if you used it and then self-destructed, conceded, or lost before the end step, meaning that the poor guy wouldn't get his stuff back.

However, just because this works doesn't mean you should use it. You will have no more friends ever. Ever.

December 11, 2013 6:53 p.m.

Sizzlewump says... #2

Lmao, for that reason alone I feel Sudden Disappearance should go on the EDH ban list. Just my thoughts, I'm sure the community thinks stuff like Primeval Titan is worse. Derp.

December 11, 2013 6:56 p.m.

Sizzlewump says... #3

Better yet, I could Fork , Twincast , or Reverberate my Sudden Disappearance and then quit after maiming several players.

December 11, 2013 6:58 p.m.

i would assume sence you have died/ left the game that your spell would fizzle out. just like if you had enchantments and such

December 11, 2013 7:11 p.m.

vishnarg says... #5

Epochalyptik halp plz

December 11, 2013 8:07 p.m.

GoblinsInc says... #6

800.4d applies, not c. The interaction described is correct, if you leave before the delayed triggered ability resolves then the objects won't be returned.

December 11, 2013 8:19 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #7

The relevant rule is 800.4d:
800.4d. If an object that would be owned by a player who has left the game would be created in any zone, it isn't created. If a triggered ability that would be controlled by a player who has left the game would be put onto the stack, it isn't put on the stack.

Because Sudden Disappearance creates a DTA, and because that DTA would be controlled by the player who controls Sudden Disappearance , it is possible for the cards exiled by Sudden Disappearance to remain indefinitely exiled if the player who controls Sudden Disappearance leaves the game before the DTA resolves (this includes times before or after the DTA is put onto the stack).

December 11, 2013 8:20 p.m.

vishnarg says... #8

I must do this.

December 11, 2013 8:57 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #9

Be aware that if your opponents in this casual game actually have any sense, your "trick" is going to get cancelled by an emergency house-ruling (meaning you accomplished nothing and they still don't like you).

December 12, 2013 9:41 a.m.

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