Melek, Izzet Paragon
Asked by JasonMB 12 years ago
First off: Melek, Izzet Paragon
- how was this ruling made?
"If the top card of your library is a land, you can play it if you could play a land."
I don't see why they are ruling that a land can be played if it's being revealed (assuming you don't breach your land per turn restrictions.)
2nd: Looking for other standard cards that will cast spells from the deck to trigger this guy's "whenever - duplicate" effect. I at least found Unexpected Results
if you reveal an instant or sorcery this way anyways.
Most others I am finding make you exile the card and then you're able to cast it w/o paying mana cost, such as with Jace, Architect of Thought
or Epic Experiment
.
So, 2nd question is, that does duplicate with a sorcery/instant reveal off Unexpected Results right? And then can anyone think of any other standard cards that would trigger his duplicate effect?
Darkness1835 says... #2
Perhaps in the near future Cascade will be brought back? Not standard at the moment.Just a great combo that jumped into my mind. If you reveal the technically already revealed card with Unexpected Results and its a sorcery/instant and you choose to cast it, it WILL trigger Melek's ability and copy the spell since you're casting from your library.
April 29, 2013 11:14 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #3
Something went wrong in a recent Gatherer update, and many (possibly all) of the cards that have you play with the top card of your library revealed were accidentally given the rulings notes for Oracle of Mul Daya . Melek, Izzet Paragon doesn't allow you to play lands off the top.
Unexpected Results has you cast the card directly from your library, so that's a combo with Melek.
April 29, 2013 11:26 p.m.
@Rhadamanthus, where did you find out that information? I'm curious.
As for cards that work with Melek's last ability, the other options I can find are Spellshift (if played on yourself); Surging AEther , Surging Dementia , and Surging Flame (the other two Surging spells are an aura and a creature spell), which require having multiple copies in the deck due to ripple 4, and Thrumming Stone from the same set which gives the rest of your spells ripple 4. So the ripple spells could work depending on how you build the deck.
April 30, 2013 2:34 a.m.
Absinthman says... #6
@Darkness1835: Interesting idea... It would be nice if cascade made a guest appearance in M14...
April 30, 2013 5:20 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #7
I heard it through the grapevine from being subscribed to a few judging-related mailing lists, FB groups, and forums.
April 30, 2013 10:40 a.m.
Ok great, thanks. Glad the land thing wasn't real, because that made no sense! If not cascade for m14 or next block, hopefully there will be more than just Unexpected Results
that will trigger him. As is there's some fun Unexpected Results possiblities.
April 30, 2013 2:02 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #9
I went back and read all the Gatherer notes for "top card revealed" cards just to satisfy my curiosity, and I think the specific mistake involves copying over the notes from either Future Sight or Magus of the Future . They have this exact note among their other notes, but they're the only cards for which it isn't dated 4/15/2013.
JasonMB says... #1
Clarification: I know it doesn't duplicate when you have to exile the card first. Which is why I've only found Unexpected Results so far that works.
April 29, 2013 11:09 p.m.