How do creatures re-enter the battlefield.

Asked by vomdur 8 years ago

Does a creature that was championed away say using Mistbind Clique use the stack when it re-enters the battlefield? Can it be responded to in any way?

wondering this mainly because of a misplay an opponent made in a casual game. He killed my Mistbind Clique with a Dismember that had a Scion of Oona championed. He let the kill resolve then wanted to kill off my Bitterblossom.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

Basically, yes. The creature, itself, doesn't "use the stack" but the triggered ability caused by Mistbind Clique dying does.

Champion represents 2 triggered abilities (you can tell a triggered ability because it always starts with "when", "whenever", or "at"). The first says "when (this guy) enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you exile a (thing)". The second says "when (this guy) leaves the battlefield, return the exiled (thing) to the battlefield." In your example your opponent kills Mistbind Clique and the second triggered ability gets put onto the stack. Everyone is allowed to make more responses before that ability resolves and actually returns Scion of Oona to the battlefield.

June 11, 2015 12:39 p.m.

TheRedMage says... #2

Also worth clarifying: your opponent gets to respond because the leaves-the-battlefield half of Mistbind Clique's champion ability is on the stack. Scion of Oona itself is not on the stack, and cannot for example be countered or Mindbreak Trapped.

Notice that this works because the Champion ability uses an "old" templating (which you can also see on cards such as Fiend Hunter and Oblivion Ring) in which there are two separate triggered abilities, one exiling your Scion of Oona when Mistbind Clique enters the battlefield, and one making the scion come back when the clique leaves.

Newer cards like Banishing Light, Colossal Whale and Banisher Priest are templated differently and create a trigger with a duration. When one of these is destroyed, the permanent that was exiled comes back immediately, without an opportunity for players to respond. This changes the interaction of this sort of effects with cards such as Far / Away, for example.

June 11, 2015 12:56 p.m.

vomdur says... #3

ahhh ok so as long as he was responding to the second trigger it would have been fine. makes sense. He just was playing fast and missed the triggers entirely and screwed himself.

June 11, 2015 12:56 p.m.

vomdur says... #4

thanks to both of you! This is why playtesting is done so i can ask the silly questions now.

June 11, 2015 1 p.m.

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