The precon question

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Posted on Dec. 27, 2021, 9:51 a.m. by AggroWithAShield

If you could only get one precon deck from either crimson vow or midnight hunt which one would it be and why ?

TypicalTimmy says... #2

The Dimir one with Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver is super fun, interactive and has great value.

The Selesnya one is a good starter for new players who need to focus more on their own side to learn the game.

Rakdos Vamps is pretty decent.

I haven't tried the Azorius spirits but for new players that may be a difficult one to pick up.

So I'd say it depends on your style of play.

Solo and focused? Selesnya.

Value? Dimir.

Interactions? Rakdos or Azorius. Depends if you like more aggressive or passive, respectfully.

December 27, 2021 10:03 a.m.

KBK7101 says... #3

Undead Unleashed has lots of great synergy, a handful of great reprints and has really good value all around. Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver is one of the best zombie commanders ever printed. The back-up commander, Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth is cool but requires a much different approach. The reprint commander, Gisa and Geralf is a much better "back-up commander" in this sense as they're more synergistic with the zombie theme.

Coven Counters is a bit clunky, from my experience. Like, all the pieces work together really well in theory, but it doesn't seem to work quite as well in game. The back-up commander for this deck, Kyler, Sigardian Emissary is incredible and is easily the best commander in this deck. He is a bit of a removal magnet, though, and would need a lot more protection if you decide to build around him.

Vampiric Bloodline is a bit similar to the zombie one. Some great reprints, good all around value and lots of synergy but I haven't actually played games with the VOW ones, sadly. The VOW decks also replace the back-up commander with a pair of partners, which is cool.

Spirit Squadron is a bit more complicated than the other ones. It runs pretty well, it's just that the deck has a lot more going on than the others. Like, the vampire one, the back-up commander is a pair of partners, which I love. Partner is a really cool mechanic. Again, haven't played games with these last two.

Overall? I'd probably recommend the one as the best all-around deck, being second, and and coming in after that.

For a new player, I'd recommend looking at the commanders that each deck has and picking out whichever deck has commanders/themes that interest you the most. Big zombie fan? Grab the zombie one. Love vampires? Get the vampire one. You'll be much more interested in the decks if the decks interest you, know what I mean?

Hope this helps!

December 27, 2021 10:30 a.m.

golgarigirl says... #4

Honestly, all 4 of them are really solid decks that can punch above 'precon' weight. Choose the tribe that interests you the most.

January 5, 2022 11 p.m.

golgarigirl says... #5

Also for insight on the VOW decks...

Millicent, Restless Revenant relies on you amassing a ton of spirits on-board to really do her thing, but the engine feeds itself. Once you have a bunch, they're monstrously hard to get rid of and keep multiplying thanks to her ability. She snowballs very quickly with steady card draw. I modified my Millicent with a few more Bident of Thassa effects to really take advantage of the plentiful bodies to keep the cards coming and she can explode and become a menace very quickly.

Strefan, Maurer Progenitor is a beatstick-y guy on his surface...he wants you to cheat in giant vampires. But there's trickiness there too. Making blood tokens with small damage sources like Leechridden Swamp, and you can easily make the deck more of a reanimator/graveyard matters deck or even have an artifact matters subtheme because of the blood tokens. Good thing Bloodline Necromancer is already in the deck, he's so good in here!

January 5, 2022 11:25 p.m. Edited.

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