What's omnath locus of mana entering power if I had extra green mana floating in my pool?

Asked by AllaboutMediocremagic 6 years ago

Of my EDH decks is omnath locas of rage and I'm wonder how this card interacts with "warstorm surge", "where ancients tread" and "electropotence"

chosenone124 says... #1

Remember to link cards:

Omnath, Locus of Mana

Warstorm Surge

Where Ancients Tread

Electropotence

Its ability is a continuous effect. That means that it gains power equal to the green mana in your mana pool before any of these abilities decide how/when to trigger.

May 20, 2017 8:19 p.m.

i think chosenone124 linked/explained the wrong omnath.

Omnath, Locus of Rage

Angry omnath's ability is a triggered ability, which means it is put onto the stack whenever a certain condition is met. You play a land, and it goes on the stack. when it resolves, you create a 5/5 elemental.

However, the enchantments which you mentioned only trigger when omnath's ability RESOLVES. so-1. you play a land with omnath on the battlefield2. omnath's ability goes on the stack3. assuming no one responds, the ability resolves, putting a 5/5 into play4. the enchantment trigger goes on the stack (let's assume it's Warstorm Surge5. if no one responds, the enchantment trigger resolves, dealing 5 damage to target creature or player. If the enchantment is Electropotence, you pay the mana when the trigger resolves, not when it goes on the stack.

hope this helped

May 20, 2017 9:56 p.m.

also, you can link cards by enclosing them in double square brackets

(just in case you didn't know, "[" and "]" are square brackets. formatting help can be found here

May 20, 2017 10:06 p.m.

chosenone124 says... #4

Yes I mentioned the wrong Omnath.

May 20, 2017 10:36 p.m.

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #5

The question was about Omnath, Locus of Mana, so the linked Omnath was correct. Omnath, Locus of Rage was mentioned as the commander of the deck, but not the one that the question was about.

There are two slightly different answers here. For Where Ancients Tread, as long as you have 4 floating green mana, it will trigger. You can even spend the mana before the ability resolves and it will still deal the 5 damage.

For Electropotence andWarstorm Surge the damage is calculated on resolution, so even you don't need to float extra mana, you can wait to see if your opponents will counter the creature. When the ability triggers, before anyone else responds, you can float all the green mana you want to increase Omnath's power, so it will hit harder. This is because the damage is determined by the creatures power when the ability resolves (or it's last known power if it left the battlefield already). Oddly, if you spend green mana on Electropotence Omnath will deal less damage, as it's power will go down mid resolution. If it's already left the battlefield though you're free to spend green mana as it's power was already locked in when it left.

May 21, 2017 12:14 a.m.

chosenone124 says... #6

Oh I see. The questioner meant Locus of Mana but wrote Locus of Rage

May 21, 2017 12:45 a.m.

oh lol i didn't read the title, was going by the description. that makes more sense

May 21, 2017 7:11 a.m.

Please login to comment