Phyrexian mana + replicate question

Asked by seanizle 2 years ago

Djinn Illuminatus + Gut Shot + Lich's Mirror

My question is, lets say we get Djinn on the field and start replicating gut shot for life, we send a majority at our opponent but save the last couple so we can get to 3 life, where we then pay 2 life for the last gut shot, which targets our-self, bringing our life total to 0, triggering Lich's Mirror, returning all permanents to our hand; since this happens during our turn, is the replicated spell still usable on the stack? Or would the effect cease once Djinn leaves the battlfield? Thanks.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1

Replicate is a choice you make while casting the spell. You can only replicate during the casting process.

Once you've cast the spell, replicate generates a triggered ability that copies the spell for however many times you paid its replicate cost.

As your life total hits 0, Lich's Mirror's replacement effect (note that it's not a triggered ability; it has to apply as state-based actions would cause you to lose the game) kicks in and you go back to 20 life, among other things.

However, because you already cast Gut Shot, you can't continue to replicate it once you gain your life back. The copies on the stack will resolve, but that's all you'll get until you start casting new Gut Shots.

July 21, 2017 11:44 a.m.

TMBRLZ says... #2

Kicker and Multikicker function the same way as Epoch is outlining above. See Wolfbriar Elemental or Gnarlid Pack.

Same with the additional costs in cards like Collective Defiance and Collective Brutality. You discard and choose new modes as part of the cost, before the spell and it's copied abilities enter the stack as part of the spell.

July 21, 2017 11:54 a.m. Edited.

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