Commander : what happens when i killed all players including myself ?

Asked by axdsadassdw 3 years ago

Something like Repercussion and Earthquake for lethal to all players

Additional If i copy Howl of the Horde with, say Pyromancer's Goggles, if i cast a Mind's Desire, how much many copies do i get ? And will the copies count for storm ?

BlueScope says... #1

When everyone dies simultaneously, the game ends in a draw.

Storm doesn't care how the spell was cast, just that it has been cast.
Assuming the Goggles were already on the battlefield when you start your turn, then cast Howl of the Horde without attacking with a creature first (since you didn't specify), the next spell will be copied two times; Storm count is 2. Now you cast Mind's Desire, which will be copied twice because of the Storm count, and twice because of Howl of the Horde. Both of these effects only put copies on the stack and don't cast the spells, so they won't raise the Storm count any further. Also, the copies of Mind's Desire aren't cast, so Storm won't trigger for those spells either.
Your final Storm count is 3, and the number of Mind's Desires you get is 5.

Also, you should consider starting separate threads if you have multiple unrelated questions in the future.

December 19, 2016 3:25 a.m.

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #2

Assuming everyone dies to the Earthquake the game ends in a draw. If the earthquake is just dealing a bunch of damage to creatures, Repercussion triggers for each creature dealt damage and it's controller chooses the order each of those triggers goes on the stack. Each trigger resolves in reverse order of being put on the stack and if a player is dealt lethal damage they lose the game. If at any point during the resolution of the triggers only one player is left in the game, that player wins the game. If at any point in the resolution of the triggers Repercussion's controller leaves the game all of the remaining triggers will be exiled and no more damage will be dealt. If Repercussion's owner, but not conroller leaves the game, Repercussion leaves with them, but the triggers will continue to resolve.

BlueScope was off on the storm count in his example, as only Howl of the Horde had been cast storm count was only 1. Copies of spells (such as those created by Pyromancer's Goggles) don't count towards storm count. As pointed out, they don't trigger storm either. Assuming you're using the Goggles to copy Howl of the Horde both will resolve and create delayed triggers. The next spell you cast (Mind's Desire in your question) will trigger both and be copied either 2 or 4 times depending on whether you attacked before casting Howl of the Horde.

December 19, 2016 6:56 a.m.

BlueScope says... #3

@Neotrup: Indeed, for exactly the reasons I gave, my Storm count is wrong :D

December 19, 2016 6:59 a.m.

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