So, uh... WTF Is This?

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Posted on April 16, 2014, 9:37 p.m. by GoldGhost012

We have what appears to be Dack Fayden- or at least a third of him. He's definitely multicolored, definitely blue, and has a +1 ability.

I think he's also part black, but otherwise I have no idea what the hell he does, how much he costs, how many loyalty counters he costs, why he's in Conspiracy, etc.

amishrambo says... #1

I think his +1 is gonna be some sort of looter effect

thinking his -2 would be maybe either Threaten or Mind Control depending on his cost

April 17, 2014 6:26 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #2

amishrambo, there's no room for "until end of turn. It gets haste until end of turn." From what I can tell, theres only enough room for "Gain control of target __". (thats actually about the amount of room left.)

April 17, 2014 6:36 p.m.

WovenNebula says... #3

It looks to be blue and red planeswalker rather than black and blue by looking at the middle of the card where the color begins to fade into another color. So his first ability is probably or pretty close to draw a card or two and discard two cards, Just my thoughts on it tho.

April 17, 2014 6:46 p.m.

WovenNebula says... #4

Ninja'd lol

April 17, 2014 6:47 p.m.

cr14mson says... #5




((like a commenter on mythicspoiler said, what if it's really just a half-card? XD))

April 17, 2014 6:49 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #6

Big Furry Monster Style? XD

April 17, 2014 6:52 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #7

Then it would be 0 mana to draw 2 cards every turn...if you can put a counter on it before SBA's are checked.

April 17, 2014 7:28 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #8

It could be a five drop.

And JTMS draws three. But IDK if that's a good point, since we know he is broken.

April 17, 2014 7:36 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #9

That's if Dack's a half-card, to clarify.

April 17, 2014 7:37 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #10

The secret twitter account for Conspiracy just sent out a few tweets in the Conspiracy Cipher. it's @Elavals and the tweets are

Npf? Rl axxz nnvr hhb dkbu? G ggcmsu juik? Rcue, fer'xv oi jdvr... (someone translated it but the tweet isn't there anymore)

ZRCWMF

Anyone familiar with the Conspiracy Cipher and can translate it?

April 17, 2014 7:42 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #11

I decoded it. It came out to "Huh? Is that what you nnvd? A little more? Well, you're in luck...

JUWFGK"

Maybe I missed something from the cipher...

April 17, 2014 7:46 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #12

Oh. Lol XD

I thought you were saying a repeatable Faithless Looting is too good, but yes I see your point now, and I apologize for possibly killing your joke.

April 17, 2014 8 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #13

Wait- JUWFGK comes out to "TWENTY."

Also, another one from a few minutes ago: "TDLNMLUK." Translates to "NINETEEN." A countdown?

April 17, 2014 8:05 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #14

GoldGhost012 - I think you're right, it's a countdown. Excitement Intensifies

April 17, 2014 8:08 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #15

The "twenty" and "nineteen" tweets were posted 21 minutes apart. Wonder if that's significant.

April 17, 2014 8:09 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #16

Link to Twitter page?

Also, this is really cool and really fun. Wizards must be having a lot of fun with this, because I am.

April 17, 2014 8:13 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #17

Twitter page link.

April 17, 2014 8:15 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #18

Anyone who sees a new tweet and wants to decode it, here's a cipher site that will decode it for you. Just set to decrypt and type GVYJTHQXGR in where it says Passphrase.

April 17, 2014 9:33 p.m.

Bellock86 says... #19

I don't think that works GoldGhost012. I just tried to decode something and it sent out gibberish.

April 17, 2014 9:46 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #20

make sure you change the box from encrypt to decrypt

April 17, 2014 9:57 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #21

According to this thread, Dack costs 1UR and was illustrated by Eric Deschamps.

April 18, 2014 7:48 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #22

its like were solving the enigma code in WW2.... except not all of europe hangs in the balance.

April 18, 2014 7:50 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #23

I can't even keep up anymore. By the way, the countdown is down to 16.

April 18, 2014 7:52 p.m.

h20 says... #24

well return of the giants isn't a once played set so check it out guys.

April 18, 2014 11:01 p.m.

Bellock86 says... #25

Okay so I'm confused. Is Conspiracy like a limited print set like Modern Masters or is it like a precon deck thing?

April 18, 2014 11:47 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #26

It's a set made to draft, but none of the cards will be Modern or Standard legal. I think it's focus is multiplayer drafting? It's a limited print run though.

April 18, 2014 11:52 p.m.

Bellock86 says... #27

So basically if dack is any kind of good I'm gonna have to drop like $50 to actually get one? Great.

Sorry to be such a pessimist but I hate when wizards does things like this. I like the duel decks because they are massively available so MSRP is pretty much set in stone as what you'll actually pay.

From The vaults and the like irritate me because they msrp at like $40 but then they spoil some ridiculous card and all of a sudden the price triples (looking at you FTV 20).

It's just a tad discouraging. Sorry for the rant but I don't feel like a special product should really BE spoiled otherwise stores rip us off.

April 19, 2014 midnight

the3rdH0kage says... #28

I saw something earlier that looked real and followed what has been spoiled.

He is 1UR

3 Loyalty counters

+1 Draw 2 cards then discard 2 cards.

-2 Gain control of target artifact

-6 You get an emblem with "Whenever you cast a spell that targets a creature, untap it, gain control of it. It gains haste"

Looks completely legit, not bonkers powerful. Could possibly be played in Legacy, maybe not though. Anyway figured I'd share that

April 19, 2014 12:07 a.m.

00xtremeninja says... #29

the LGS owners are going to find out what's in the box one way or another and will always set the prices accordingly after that.

April 19, 2014 12:07 a.m.

KingSorin says... #30

http://mythicspoiler.com/cpy/cards/dackfayden.html this is all i think has been spoiled so far, but maybe that one is legit. Mythicspoiler is pretty up to date most of the time though.

April 19, 2014 8:45 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #31

So far we only have that 3rd of Dack's card. My guess is that he has some sort of epithet, (think Ajani, Caller of the Pride ). But we'll hear more eventually. I mean, it's not like it's a Conspiracy or anything XD

April 19, 2014 9:05 a.m.

Matsi883 says... #32

Are we even sure there is a Dack? This could be the biggest Conspiracy Wizards has ever orchestrated.

April 19, 2014 9:07 a.m.

Jirayamo says... #33

We will definetly see on 6. june.

April 19, 2014 9:15 a.m.

Octrate says... #34

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Behold a mock-up with mana cost. Based on his flavor, his -2 is probably take control of target artifact. I'm terribly excited for him.

April 19, 2014 11 a.m.

Jirayamo says... #35

Im collecting planeswalkers so i will definetly get one

April 19, 2014 12:53 p.m.

codebread says... #36

@the3rdH0kage I don't know if you posted its source, but I'd like to see where you got that spoiler. That ultimate is probably the worst emblem I've ever seen.

April 20, 2014 12:35 a.m.

the3rdH0kage says... #37

Mtg mint posted the 1/3 of the card on Facebook the other day and what I posted was one of the comments. It was a card though, and that emblem is sick. With that wording you get to keep the creature, regardless of who controls it.

April 20, 2014 7:01 a.m.

codebread says... #38

I don't know much about eternal formats, but as far as I'm aware there aren't many spells used in U/R that target creatures without somehow removing them (i.e. Lightning Bolt or Vapor Snag ). It could be useful, but I'd say his +1 is his best ability speculated so far.

April 20, 2014 4:23 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #39

I think the +1 Faithless Looting is the best speculation we've got so far. The other two abilities are still up in the air. Also, his starting loyalty is going to be relevant. My guess is that he'll start with 3, and maybe 4.

April 20, 2014 5:26 p.m.

SpaderAce says... #40

Will he be allowed in EDH?

April 20, 2014 6:24 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #41

Most likely.

April 20, 2014 6:52 p.m.

Octrate says... #42

The count is at 10.

April 20, 2014 9:21 p.m.

Here is what Dack actually says in full.

+1: Target player draws two cards, then discards two cards.

-2: Gain control of target creature or enchantment.

-6: You get an emblem that says "Whenever you cast a spell that targets one or more permanents, gain control of those permanents."

April 22, 2014 5:34 p.m.

Derp. His -2 is "Gain control of target artifact."

April 22, 2014 5:36 p.m.

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