Yawgs Win cEDH

Commander / EDH shadowmage

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BIG Rebalancing Update!! —June 10, 2019

  • reduced overall cmc from 2.65 to 2.45 average

  • added a new category 'sac fodder' with cheap creatures or cards that can make multiple tokens and are very cheap. This lets us have more reach with yawgmoth and draw into more tutors or combo cards

  • deck is tighter and plays very consistently now. Won a few games over the weekend with it including week 1 of our new cEDH commander league season at our LGS, a crazy win where I went all the way down to 1 life left on a suicide run and managed to combo off at that point with yawgmoths wiil and aetherflux reservoir after fighting a tough battle against 3 blue decks.

  • Changed backup combo entirely to Aetherflux Reservoir + Bolas's Citadel + Sensei's Divining Top This has replaced the mike+trike backup combo for a number of reasons. The most important reason is that both mike+trike and the regular Yawgmoth combo both operate on the same axis - abusing the graveyard and the undying mechanic. When we are in a situation where this is impossible to accomplish with say a Rest in Peace that we don't have removal for at the time, it is a bad idea to have our backup combo also be turned off (Whats the point then?) So, we have Aetherflux Reservoir now as a very easy way to win with a little setup, which can also be one card tutored into a win with Insidious Dreams and at least 3 other cards in hand to discard. Check out the primer description on how to actually accomplish this

m_tironi says... #1

Your list is great too! But more on the competitive side...

I would recommend Words of Waste to lock opponents out of the game by forcing discard at instant speed. But, since I don't play cEDH, I don't if it's too slow.

May 28, 2019 2:16 p.m.

jhicks7 says... #2

Your list looks pretty comprehensive. The only thing I would consider, since your running living death already, would be fitting Gary into the deck. He flips as a win con with Living death, and he can stabilize life if necessary without it, since there's a potential to lose a lot with Yawgmoth. Competetive EDH isn't my exact expertise, so i'm not sure what turn you're looking to finish your combo on, Gary may be too slow - but he could slot in over the Merciless Executioner, as the Plaguecrafter is a better version of it, and you already have him in the deck.

May 28, 2019 2:34 p.m.

shadowmage says... #3

m_tironi hey that's a great recommendation actually.. I am going to add it to the maybeboard for now and test it out to see how it works, thanks!

May 28, 2019 2:38 p.m.

rotkiv4219 says... #4

Super small optimization, but Fleshbag Marauder over Merciless Executioner plays better with Cavern of Souls for you. The real reason you want it is cus Fleshbag is the OG version.

May 28, 2019 2:40 p.m.

shadowmage says... #5

jhicks7 I had grey merchant in previously but I think that the combo with blood artist, zulaport or deathgreeter is already doing the same thing keeping you alive. I like gray merchant for sure its a super strong card I just couldnt see a way to fit him in now. I think having both the plague guy and executioner are vital at the moment as they allow you to asymmetrically keep the board clear

May 28, 2019 2:40 p.m.

shadowmage says... #6

rotkiv4219 good point about the cavern! I just like the executioners art better haha :-)

May 28, 2019 2:42 p.m.

Love it! I never even considered the Geralf's Messenger combo.

May 28, 2019 3:39 p.m.

Leonantti says... #8

Thanks for your comment on my deck, yours look great too! "Little" more competitive than mine but my intention was to make it more casual. -1/-1 strategy is nice and flavorful as spreading sickness across the board and Midnight Banshee sure works wonderfully :)

May 28, 2019 7:06 p.m.

DINOSAURS65556 says... #9

Hello their, just something i thought about with the undying shenanigans. I believe (this might be wrong), but you kill the creature with undying, but since that is part of the cost of using the effect (before the semicolon) you get the undying trigger to happen before the -1/-1 counter is placed. Then the effect will resolve and you place the -1/-1 creature on the undying creature, then the cancel out so you can do it all again. I might be wrong be i believe that this work. If the "sacrifice a creature" part of the cost was in the text, it wouldn't as you can't do anything while something is resolving, not even triggered death abilities but since it is part of the cost... Anyway i am building him, he looks like so much fun!

May 29, 2019 4:44 a.m.

rotkiv4219 says... #10

DINOSAURS65556 Yes it is part of the cost to sac the undying creature, but you need to pick a target for the ability even before the cost is payed. That is why you need two Undying creature.

May 29, 2019 7:22 a.m.

KailDaemon says... #11

A buddy of mine has this idea that once you've got your deck in your hand after bargaining, to cast dark ritual, discard a titan, then re drawing the cards to infinitely proliferate and storm, think there could be an application there?

May 29, 2019 5:20 p.m.

shadowmage says... #12

KailDaemon it’s definitely an interesting idea, however I’ve found generally your deck is always going to be greater than your life total. Because of this if you are trying to draw your library you will always need to play one of either deathgreeter, blood artist, or zulaport cutthroat in order to not die to yawgmoths ability. Once you have those cards in play you are already in the position to win by recycling a titan when your deck runs out of cards. You have the whole library so you can just play any discard outlet or just use Yawgmoth.

I just really don’t see the efficiency gained unless this combo route was actually lowering the amount of cards needed to win or it’s patently better than either blood artist or zulaport cutthroat

May 29, 2019 5:45 p.m.

m_tironi says... #13

Magistrate's Scepter for infinite turns.

Liliana, Dreadhorde General + 3x proliferate (12 mana total, discard 3) = win

May 30, 2019 2:07 a.m.

somrune says... #14

I'm new to cEDH o I don't know if this suggestion is good, but what do you think of Soldevi Adnate for the deck?

May 30, 2019 2:52 a.m.

shadowmage says... #15

m_tironi

I like the idea of the scepter however it seems like a completely dead card outside of the combo

Liliana dreadhorde seems like a more viable option, we can grind out advantage. I don’t really see using the ultimate here as “winning”, it doesn’t wipe every permanent out unfortunately. I think the static “draw a card” effect is better than the ult however I don’t really see that as being necessary here as Yawgmoth already does the same thing with his ability.

May 30, 2019 8:33 a.m.

shadowmage says... #16

somrune

Soldevi Adnate is a pretty good card in certain decks however I’m not sure this is the one. I don’t really see adding a couple mana on a future turn as being useful and we already have a sac outlet in Yawgmoth. It could be decent if dropped turn 1 or two but I think just a regular mana rock is better in this deck

May 30, 2019 8:35 a.m.

tiagompm says... #17

shadowmage Still the card did not leave and you are already doing such evilness!!! Very good idea! And I love Mono Black ... Few suggestions can take place on a 100% deck ... I'm just afraid of the number of lands (29), are few for deck commander but I can suggest Extraplanar Lens (more than 17 is great) to double the swamps that can be exchanged for snow covered ...

Keep up the great work!

May 30, 2019 10:55 a.m.

primooit says... #18

By "competitive" you mean multiplayer, or 1v1? If 1v1, which banlist you'r using?

I really enjoyed your list, and was thinking something like that, but since i play in French Banlist, can't use several mana rocks that you'r using.

I'm thinking about making it a little "grindier" like a mid-range/ combo

May 30, 2019 11:14 a.m.

shadowmage says... #19

primooit this list is for multiplayer and uses the standard ban list. If you’re playing French 1v1 you will definitely have to alter the deck quite a bit. You may want to go the staxier route and use things like contamination , more hand destruction etc

May 30, 2019 11:47 a.m.