Will casting a Storm spell with a Eye of the Storm on the battlefield give you two sets of Storm?
Asked by Yesterday 8 years ago
Just making sure I've got this right.
Say there's an Eye of the Storm on the battlefield with 5 spells exiled under it, and I've cast 2 spells already this turn. I go to cast Mind's Desire, and the card's initial spell becomes exiled under Eye of the Storm but the Storm will still trigger on-cast?
So then I have the option of casting all the other spells before Mind's Desire for a second and significantly bigger storm count?
And while we're at it, as long as I get the Storm trigger from Mind's Desire to keep pulling Instant and Sorcery spells, I can keep casting them in order to get more copies of all the spells under Eye of the Storm, including casting more copies of Mind's Desire, for an arbitrarily large combo?
The way this goes down:
If your opponent controls Eye of the Storm:
- You cast Mind's Desire with a storm count of 2.
- Storm triggers and goes on the stack.
- Eye of the Storm triggers and goes on the stack.
- Eye of the Storm's trigger resolves, exiling the original Mind's Desire, then giving you the option to cast 5 spells and Mind's Desire. (I'm going to assume you cast all of them.)
- The 5 spells and Mind's Desire go on the stack in whatever order you chose to cast them. (I'm going to assume you cast Mind's Desire last.)
- Storm triggers again. (Your storm count is now 8.)
- Storm makes 8 copies of the Eye of the Storm's copy of Mind's Desire.
- 8 storm copies of Mind's Desire, and 1 Eye of the Storm copy of Mind's Desire, all resolve. (For simplicity's sake, I'm going to assume you don't hit any instants that you choose to cast immediately, but keep in mind that that is possible, and that casting an instant in the middle of this process will get you another Mind's Desire off of Eye of the Storm, which will have even more storm.)
- The 5 copies of whatever spells are on Eye of the Storm resolve.
- The storm trigger of the original Mind's Desire, creating 2 copies of the original Mind's Desire.
- Those copies resolves as well.
If you control Eye of the Storm:
- You cast Mind's Desire with a storm count of 2.
- Storm and Eye of the Storm both trigger and goes on the stack. If you stack the triggers so that Eye of the Storm is on top of storm, it works just like the above tree, so let's stack them the other way.
- Storm resolves, creating 2 copies of Mind's Desire.
- The two copies resolve.
- Continue from step 4 to step 9 above.
That was fun.
April 8, 2017 5:33 a.m.
How neat! Mind's Desire is definitely tonnes more fun than Grapeshot.
sonnet666 I assume you mean if it's your opponent's turn vs if it's your turn?
Now all we need is a Strionic Resonator. Or a Stifle, depending how you look at it. Thanks.
April 8, 2017 6:26 a.m.
sonnet666 was looking at if you cast Mind's Desire on your turn (as it's a sorcery) into an opponent's Eye of the Storm (as it looks at all instant and sorcery cards, not just those cast by it's controller). The only thing this really effects is which trigger hits the stack first, which is less relevant here than in a lot of situations. If you Quicken Mind's Desire (which has a lot of implications just because it would go into the Eye of the Storm(, the triggers will reverse order. If you control both the enchantment and spell, you choose the order the triggers go on the stack regardless of whose turn it is. If you copy the storm trigger with Strionic Resonator you get double the copies, but if you copy the Eye of the Storm trigger you get double the spells out (even though you can't put double the spells in). You also never need to cast Mind's Desire out of the storm, or cast spells off it, so you woudldn't need to Stifle any triggers, unless you need to stop your opponent from using Eye of the Storm, but you should win fast enough that they don't get a chance. Eye of the Storm is very powerful.
Neotrup says... Accepted answer #1
Absolutely, to everything. Spells cast out of Eye of the Storm both count for storm count, and if they have storm, like Mind's Desire, it triggers. As long as you hit instants and/or sorceries off of the desire copies you can keep going, getting bigger storms each time. Do note that Storm only counts spells cast before it during the turn, so if you stack the triggers so Eye of the Storm resolves first, those spells won't count towards the instance of storm at the bottom of the stack.
April 8, 2017 1:40 a.m.