Question about flip planeswalkers
Asked by DromokaCaptain 9 years ago
If I had a flipped planeswalker already in play and it was sent to the graveyard, does it go into the graveyard in its flipped state, or does it go in unflipped? And if I recovered it from the graveyard using a card like Reclaim, would I bring it back to the top of my library flipped or unflipped and have to meet the flip requirements again?
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2
Note that "flipping" refers to cards like Nezumi Graverobber. Technically, the term for the new double-faced cards (DFCs) like Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip is "transform."
The second face of a DFC can only exist on the battlefield and only when the card is transformed such that its second face is up. At all other times and in all other zones, a DFC has only the characteristics of its front face, as lordoftheshadows said. So a DFC planeswalker would die, but it would immediately become a creature card again once in the graveyard. And it will remain a creature card until you play it again and get it to transform.
July 23, 2015 5:02 p.m.
filledelanuit says... #3
I always forget that flipped cards and double faced cards are different. Why did transforming a card have to involve flipping it over?
July 23, 2015 5:24 p.m.
I have a question about the new flip walkers. Lets say we go to combat and my opponent has a first striker Akroan Sergeant and Bellows Lizard I block the lizard with Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip and the sergeant is blocked with Typhoid Rat. First strike damage occurs killing my rat so liliana flips. Does liliana take loyalty loss or not? and does the lizard still get blocked but no damage occurs to it?
July 23, 2015 6:02 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
If you have an unrelated question, please ask it in a new thread.
Once an attacking creature is blocked, it remains blocked for the rest of combat, regardless of whether the blocking creature is removed from combat or the legality of the block changes later.
In order for the new planeswalkers to transform, they must be exiled and returned to the battlefield transformed. The act of exiling the card forces it to become a new object with no relation to its previous iterations in any other zones. When Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip returns to the battlefield, it will not be blocking anything, and it will not take damage from anything.
July 23, 2015 6:08 p.m.
filledelanuit says... #7
Please ask new questions in a new thread.
Lily will not take any damage because she left the battlefield and then returned and is now a new object that is not blocking anything.
The lizard is still blocked and will not deal damage to anything.
filledelanuit says... #1
The way flip walkers (or flipped cards in general) is that they have the characteristics of their front face everywhere but the battlefield. So when they go to the graveyard they are all unflipped so if they get reanimated or returned to your hand they are unflipped.
July 23, 2015 4:14 p.m.