Multiple Azusa, Lost But Seeking 's Lands
Asked by yorkazord 5 years ago
So, I ran across something interesting and was wondering what the definitive explanation of why this is:
I have Azusa, I play two lands, I cast a second Azusa, I sac the first Azusa due to legend ability. I can now only cast one more land. From things I've seen it seems like I should be able to play two more lands, but that's not the case. Why is that? Is it because I didn't already play my max number of lands so it wouldn't allow me to play more, or is it because of the interaction with both of them in play at once?
Thanks!
Rhadamanthus says... #2
Note that the above is a change from previous versions of the rules. Under certain older versions of the rules you would get more land drops from the new Azusa, but under the current rules you don't.
December 10, 2019 5:25 p.m.
I just didn’t see the difference between flickering an Azusa vs playing a second and having a different number of land I could play in these two different scenarios
December 13, 2019 2:15 a.m.
To put it simply, the current rule on land plays is that you are limited to 1 per turn. Some static effects may increase it.
Azusa, Lost but Seeking bumps your limit to 3. If you had two Azusas and Mirror Gallery , your limit would be five. Without the gallery, you can keep only 1 Azusa, and your limit would be three, as there is never a moment when you control 2 of them and can play lands.
If you play Azusa and three lands and then Flickerwisp the Azusa away, your limit until the end of turn will be one, but you have already played three when your limit was higher, so you cannot play anymore, but you do not sacrifice the now-above-the-limit lands either.
December 13, 2019 4:39 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #5
As Rhadamanthus said, the current rules on multiple Azusas is different than the rules previous to the M14 rules change. Currently effects that allow you to play extra lands add to the total you can play for the turn and if you want to play a land you compare how many you have played this turn and how many you are allowed to via all current effects. Playing a new Azusa or blinking an old one will not allow you to play any more lands since the total lands allowed by effects will not change.
Under previous rules land drops worked differently. Blinking or playing a new Azusa could give you extra land drops. There jas never been a difference between flickering and playing a new Azusa. It just seems that you are looking at something from before July 2013 when the way both worked was different.
December 13, 2019 6:42 a.m.
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Caerwyn says... Accepted answer #1
First, you do not sacrifice one of the legends--you send one of them to the graveyard as a state-based action. While this might seem a bit pedantic, there are cases where that distinction matters, so I like to point it out. Also, you do not "Cast" lands, you just put them into play.
Please also link cards using double brackets:
Azusa, Lost but Seeking
To start, here is the rule: 305.2. A player can normally play one land during their turn; however, continuous effects may increase this number.
Azusa creates a continuous effect modifying the number of lands you can play. One way of thinking of continuous effects is think of the rule they modify. So, with Azusa in play, you could think of Rule 305.2 as reading "you can play three lands during your turn."
When the first Azusa is sent to the graveyard, its continuous effect ends. The other's will now be active. It is performing the same modification to the rules--so, our modified 305.2 still reads "you can play three lands during your turn."
You have already played 2 in your hypothetical, meaning you only have one left you can play.
If you had already played 3 lands, you still could not play any more--you're still capped at 3 for the turn.
December 10, 2019 4:46 p.m. Edited.