Flying abilities neutralised by Turn to Frog?

Asked by Gibbo88 7 years ago

Hi all

Mechanics question. If somebody could help, that'd be awesome.

I attack with 5 creatures each with a +1/+1 counter on them and one of them is a Abzan Falconer so they all have flying.

If my opponent, before declaring blockers, plays Turn to Frog on my Abzan Falconer... Does this then remove the flying ability on my other creatures so they can be blocked as normal? Or do they retain the flying ability because they were already tapped and attacking with flying?

Thanks in advance!

Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #1

They lose flying.

This is a static ability that is always true. If it doesn't exist, it does nothing. Identical to, say, an opponent controlling Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. If you Turn to Frog her, your creatures no longer are getting -2/-2.

If Abzan Falconer's ability read: "whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it attacks, it gains flying until end of turn."..

..Your creatures would continue to have flying because in this case, the triggered ability grants flying to the creatures with the duration "until end of turn" and doesn't care if the source of the ability or the ability itself ceases to exist once it's triggered.

October 1, 2016 1:50 p.m.

Gibbo88 says... #2

Even though they were already flying into attack? Brutal. Not what I wanted to hear, hahaha.

Damn blue cards!!!

Thank you for the detailed answer and the help :)

October 1, 2016 2:17 p.m.

Being declared as attackers doesn't "lock in" the flying characteristic for your creatures. If the ability that grants the static flying buff ceases to exist, its effect no longer applies and your creatures lose flying.

P.S. That's why blue is the best color. ;)

October 1, 2016 2:36 p.m.

BlueScope says... #4

To be fair - Lightning Bolt, Doom Blade, Hunt the Weak and Path to Exile on Abzan Falconer would achieve the very same thing, as the only thing happening here is the static ability vanishing until end of turn... but Blue's the best (read: most versatile) color in any case.

October 2, 2016 4:06 a.m.

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