EDH and Gilded Lotus
Asked by Saion 12 years ago
My general is Karn, Silver Golem
If I were to tap Gilded Lotus for it's ability, am I able to choose colorless mana, or does the ability fizzle because it asks me for a choice in color?
Hmm.... I think I'll wait for more answers just to be sure, but I think it'll work anyway. I just found this: A deck may not generate mana outside its colours. If an effect would generate mana of an illegal colour, it generates colourless mana instead.
That's straight from http://mtgcommander.net/ . So I think I can just say green as my choice, and the game will just say it's colorless instead.
April 22, 2013 4:37 a.m.
Realistically, you can just call it a house rule even if it was ruled an illegal move. There's no reason why Gilded Lotus shouldn't be able to tap for 3 colorless mana in a colorless EDH deck.
As for the technical side, I would say you could choose any color and the game would generate the EDH replacement effect, turning that mana into colorless mana.
April 22, 2013 4:47 a.m.
Well if I win the season I'm allowed to make a house rule. Pretty sure it would be something along the lines of "Spells or abilities that ask for a chosen color can choose colorless."
Doubt I'll win but still.
April 22, 2013 4:51 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #5
Because Gilded Lotus says "color" and not "type," you may only choose to produce white, blue, black, red, or green mana.
The rules of EDH prevent you from adding to your mana pool mana of a color that is not in your general's color identity. However, these rules do not prevent you from attempting to add illegal mana to your mana pool. You may still activate Gilded Lotus and attempt to add mana of any color to your mana pool; if that color of mana would be illegal, it becomes colorless mana instead.
April 22, 2013 5:09 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #7
Also, @aavb132: Your answer is a bit misleading. In EDH, you can attempt to add to your mana pool mana of an illegal color. However, that mana will be created as colorless mana instead. It is important to acknowledge that a player in an EDH game may never have mana of an illegal color in his or her mana pool (which is to say that player may never have mana of a color not in his or her general's color identity).
April 22, 2013 5:11 a.m.
- 903.9. If mana would be added to a player's mana pool of a color that isn't in the color identity of that player's commander, that amount of colorless mana is added to that player's mana pool instead.
Well fuck me sideways, you're right. I really ought to do once overs of the rules before answering rules questions.
aavb132 says... #1
105.1. There are five colors in the Magic game: white, blue, black, red, and green.
105.4. If a player is asked to choose a color, he or she must choose one of the five colors. "Multicolored" is not a color. Neither is "colorless."
You can create any color mana you please with Gilded Lotus. And you must create colored mana, or not tap it for mana, at all.
Incidentally, you can create any color mana you're capable of creating in EDH, regardless of whether it matches your commander's color identity or not.
So, if, for example, you gained control of a Llanowar Elves through Mind Control, and your commander was Teferi, you would be perfectly able to tap the elf for green mana.
April 22, 2013 4:32 a.m.