Doran, the Siege Tower and direct damage

Asked by MartialArt 11 years ago

Let's assume my opponent has Doran, the Siege Tower out and attacks me with it. I declare a blocker and before the damage will be dealt I also cast a Shock on the doran. I block with a 4/4 (let's say Genesis for example). Would it survive? I think it would because the direct damage from the Shock reduced Doran, the Siege Tower s thoughtness to 2 letting him deal only 2 damage to my Genesis .

ADj says... #1

If nothing else happens or yor opponent responds that sounds correct!

December 10, 2013 6:07 a.m.

MartialArt says... #2

So I'm correct about damage reducing the thoughtnes of a creature?

December 10, 2013 6:27 a.m.

acbooster says... Accepted answer #3

No. Damage does not reduce the toughness of any creature. When you deal damage to a creature, it is simply marked with that damage until end of turn. Since you cast a Shock on Doran, the Siege Tower , Doran would be a 0/5 with 2 damage marked on it. The only things that reduce P/T are -X/-X effects and -1/-1 counters.

December 10, 2013 6:46 a.m.

MartialArt says... #4

I thought like this because I heard that you can kill a Darksteel Colossus with dealing 10 damage and then giving him -1/-1.

December 10, 2013 6:59 a.m.

acbooster says... #5

You cannot do that. Indestructible creates a replacement effect that essentially says, "If this creature would be destroyed, don't destroy it instead."

A creature can be destroyed either through lethal damage or by destroy effects (see Murder ). By giving a Darksteel Colossus -1/-1, he would become a 10/10. If you also marked 10 damage on him, normally he would die from lethal damage, but indestructible prevents that. If you were to give him -11/-11 with say Black Sun's Zenith , then he would die from a state based action as his toughness was reduced to 0.

December 10, 2013 7:02 a.m.

MartialArt says... #6

Ok. This way it won't work. Thanks.

December 10, 2013 7:10 a.m.

Zaghrog says... #7

Some digital versions of Magic visualize damage as if it reduced toughness, this might lead to the misconceptions about damage changing toughness.

December 10, 2013 8:22 a.m.

Devonin says... #8

Unofficial things aren't required to be correct. You sort of use them at their own risk.

December 10, 2013 8:32 a.m.