Does Flashback's replacement effect on resolution overrule Father's ability?
Asked by Yesterday 5 years ago
If I have Feather, the Redeemed in play as I cast Dematerialize from my graveyard for its Flashback cost, targeting a creature I control (and it resolves), what happens?
I know that ordinarily, Flashback's replacement effect overrules things like Buyback, because those try to put the card into your hand instead of the graveyard as it resolves, but Flashback says to put it into exile instead of anywhere else as it resolves.
With Feather, the text on the card reads "If you do, return it to your hand at the beginning of the next end step." I suppose my question is, does this mean "If you do [put the resolving card into exile as the spell resolves], return the card", or "If you do [put the resolving card into exile as the spell resolves as a result of this ability], return the card"?
Thanks in advance.
Flashback includes a replacement effect that will exile the card if it's put anywhere else (like the graveyard) when it resolves. Feather, the Redeemed 's trigger likewise creates a replacement effect to exile instead of send to the graveyard, and since it's your card that would be affected by both, you choose which to apply.
If you choose Feather's replacement effect, you will get the "return to hand" trigger and the card will go back to your hand at the next end step.
This works because the Flashback replacement effect wants the card in exile instead of anywhere else. Feather's replacement effect puts it in exile at that moment, so Flashback's replacement is satisfied. It doesn't work with Buyback because Buyback will try to replace going to the graveyard with going to hand, which falls under "anywhere else," so Flashback will still affect it even if Buyback's replacement is applied first.
April 9, 2019 1:06 p.m.
Oh wow. Sweet, thanks.
To clarify, if I chose to let the card go to exile wih the Flashback's replacement effect, Feather's ability wouldn't work because it failed to meet its clause on the resolution of the spell?
April 9, 2019 1:16 p.m.
Yes. If you allow Flashback's replacement effect to apply first, then Feather's replacement won't do anything because the card is no longer going to the graveyard, and if Feather's replacement doesn't do anything, it doesn't create the delayed triggered ability to return the card to your hand.
April 9, 2019 5:49 p.m.
https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=512343 gatherer specifically says this does NOT work: If an instant or sorcery spell's own instructions tell you to exile it or put it anywhere else, it won't try to be put into your graveyard or exiled with Feather's effect, so you won't return it to your hand.
May 28, 2022 4:53 p.m.
nvm:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather's replacement effect first. If you do, Feather's delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
May 28, 2022 5:36 p.m.
plakjekaas says... #8
Spells that instruct themselves to be exiled are different than spells with Flashback. Part the Waterveil will never return to your hand with Feather, even if it targets an already animated land, because it exiled itself before Feather's effect would apply.
Feather instructs you to exile it as it resolves (where it would normally go to the graveyard if she wasn't there) while flashback's rules text says that if a spell would leave the stack, it will be exiled instead of wherever it's supposed to go. When you Remand a spell that is flashed back, it will still exile instead of going to your hand. The fun part is that Feather already puts it in exile instead of in the graveyard, which doesn't clash with the rules of flashback, therefore you will get the card back from exile, even if it's flashback cost was paid.
Yesterday says... #1
*Feather's ability, FFS. >>
April 9, 2019 10:09 a.m.