Does Archwing Dragon Bounce from graveyard?

Asked by DragonKing1997 12 years ago

Archwing Dragon is in graveyard does it bounce to hand?

SwiftDeath says... #1

No it does not.

November 26, 2012 10:52 p.m.

sheamagic says... #2

No. The ability only activates when it is on the battlefield.

November 26, 2012 10:52 p.m.

SwiftDeath says... #3

sorry, to specify unless an effect specifically states from the graveyard effects that bounce permanents don't activate when they are in a different zone. ie card:Chandra's Phoenix

November 26, 2012 10:54 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #4

SwiftDeath is correct, but it should be noted that the abilities of Archwing Dragon and card:Chandra's Phoenix are triggered abilities, not activated ones. Regardless, if a permanent card has an ability that functions in any zone other than the battlefield, the ability will explicitly state from which zone(s) and in what manner it functions.

November 26, 2012 11:54 p.m.

http404error says... #5

In fact, all abilities of permanents by default can be assumed to be functional only on the battlefield and nowhere else (unless otherwise specified, such as Reassembling Skeleton or Faerie Macabre ). For example, hexproof creatures can still be countered, as hexproof only prevents targeting while on the battlefield. Or, less obviously, you can't tap lands in your graveyard for mana. The same principle applies to abilities that cause a card to move zones (such as Flickering Spirit , whose ability, as you might expect, only works on the bfield), unless, of course, the ability specifically says "from the graveyard", or "from your hand", or something of the like.

November 26, 2012 11:55 p.m.

Now, what if you have Archwing Dragon equipped with Grafted Wargear or Grafted Exoskeleton ... would you sacrifice Archwing Dragon because he becomes unequipped or would he end up in your hand before that effect resolved?

November 27, 2012 1:57 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #7

Grafted Wargear and Grafted Exoskeleton become unattached from Archwing Dragon as a result of it leaving the field during the resolution of Archwing Dragon 's triggered ability, and the triggered abilities from these equipment will not be put onto the stack until after Archwing Dragon is in its owner's hand. While the abilities will still be stacked, they will not do anything when they resolve because the object they refer to has changed zones and you can't sacrifice something that's in your hand.

November 27, 2012 2:22 a.m.

Enyeto says... #8

In either case you would be putting Archwing Dragon into the graveyard. Both equipments (Grafted Exoskeleton and Grafted Wargear ) would force you to sacrifice Archwing Dragon . Grafted Wargear would be better paired with a Mark of Mutiny combo.

Keep the equipment in play unattached. Steal your opponents creature with Mark of Mutiny then equip Grafted Wargear on it to boost it's strike. You could turn their bomb creature into a gigantic bomb! Then on your second main phase, equip Grafted Wargear to a different creature of yours, destroying theirs.

November 27, 2012 10:42 a.m.

Enyeto says... #9

***Correction to forcing the sacrifice, that's if it left play by damage from combat or a removal. Putting it into your hand wouldn't resolve because it would still be put into graveyard from the sacrifice. However, Epochalyptik is correct in stating the bounce would resolve at the end of your turn before the sacrifice. So, yes you could resummon it every turn, equip it, attack then bounce at the end of your turn and redo this.

November 27, 2012 10:45 a.m.

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