does a 0/0 die
Asked by dragonbigboy 12 years ago
if a creature enter the field as a 0/0, does that means it dies.( young wolf + falkenrath noble+ heartless summoning
YouGotFranked says... Accepted answer #2
Yes. A creature is considered "dying" when it goes from the battlefield to the graveyard. It can be achieved by inflicting lethal damages, by reducing it's toughness to 0, by sacrificing it or by an ability or spell that says "destroy"
August 28, 2012 12:17 a.m.
NobodyPicksBulbasaur says... #3
...Which, due to game rules, is considered dying.
A creature is said to "die" if it moves, for any reason, from the battlefield to the graveyard, with no stops in between.
August 28, 2012 12:18 a.m.
In the case of Young Wolf , when its undying triggers it will reenter the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter and survive Heartless Summoning 's effect.
August 28, 2012 12:19 a.m.
If a creature has 0 or less than 0 toughness at any point while it's on the battlefield, it is placed into its owner's graveyard the next time state-based actions are checked.
This is why cards like Grasp of Darkness /Dismember were/are so good. It essentially kills anything with 5 or less toughness instantly.
August 28, 2012 3:01 a.m.
shifterfox says... #6
I think they're asking "would the +1/+1 counter be of significance if Heartless Summoning is in place at the time the undying creature would come back..where heartless would normally kill it off, unless the counter counts first?
August 28, 2012 4:29 a.m.
@shifterfox: The creature would return as a 0/0, Undying would resolve, putting its +1/+1 counter on, then state-based actions are checked. At that point, the creature's toughness is greater than zero, therefore it does not die. The same goes for living weapons like Flayer Husk and Batterskull .
August 28, 2012 6:05 a.m.
To be completely technical, Young Wolf would return to the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it, meaning it never exists on the battlefield without the counter.
It enters the battlefield as a 0/0 with a +1/+1 counter, then state-based actions are checked. Your wording makes it seem like it enters as a 0/0 and then has the counter placed on it. It's more fluid than that.
August 28, 2012 6:24 a.m.
No worries, concept was solid. I'm just a stickler for precision.
Emrakool says... #1
Yes, it would die. A creature with 0 toughness cannot exist on the battlefield and is placed in its owner's graveyard as a result.
August 28, 2012 12:15 a.m.