Blood Celebrant
Asked by TurtleintheShell 12 years ago
If I pay a black and 1 life to add a black to my mana pool can I then use that black to do this again?
If so if I have a Blood Celebrant and 2x Children of Korlis and play card:Angel's Grace could I then do the blood celebrant ability X number of times and sac both the Children of Korlis would I have an amount of life equal to X + Life when combo began?
BrokenZygoma says... #2
But remember, you cant lose/pay life you don't have. So you would have to sac the first Children of Korlis when you hit 0 life, then sac the second again at 0 which would double your starting life. But as Tunde said, that is a very card intensive way to gain life. Too many pieces. you can get the same effect from 1 card in either Beacon of Immortality or Celestial Mantle
September 28, 2012 3:12 a.m.
It works, but this is a 3 piece combo - It does give you unlimited life, but seems highly impractical.
September 28, 2012 8:21 a.m.
lol I read the card incorrectly - You can only double your when you have 2 Children of Korlis - And as BrokenZygoma said, there's a LOT easier ways to do so.
September 28, 2012 12:30 p.m.
BrokenZygoma says... #5
I think you think that card:Angel's Grace wont let your life go below 1 so you can keep paying 1 life infinitely, but card:Angel's Grace only prevents damage from taking you to 0. Paying life is not the same.
September 28, 2012 2:28 p.m.
TurtleintheShell says... #6
:P I just didnt know that I couldn't go below zero honestly. But the doubling of my life isn't really what I'm looking for. It was a coincidental combo in a deck I didn't see when I made the decklist but came up in play. I just want to make sure I don't cheat anybody out of a game.
If possible I could use more clarification on the rule about zero life and can't lose the game. So say I have Platinum Angel on the field and someone Consume Spirit me for 10 and I only had 1 life. If I sac 2x Children of Korlis would I have 11 life or 2? The overall question being in the situation you can't lose the game with nothing like Phyrexian Unlife on the field can you fall below zero life from damage or loss of life. And if you fall below zero will your life reset at zero every turn or will it be set as the negative life you have accrued?
September 28, 2012 5:29 p.m.
hunter9000 says... Accepted answer #7
Your life total can go below zero, you just can't pay more life than you have. In your example, Consume Spirit would take you to -9 life, then the two Children of Korlis would each make you gain 10 (the amount you lost) putting you at 11. Your life total doesn't ever change unless some effect specifically says so, so you don't get reset to zero.
Note the difference between an effect that lowers your life, like Consume Spirit and a cost that does so, like Blood Celebrant 's ability. You can't pay a cost with life you don't have, just like you can't pay a mana cost with mana you don't have. An effect can make you lose any amount, no matter how much you have.
September 28, 2012 5:43 p.m.
One thing to note is that paying life isn't damage so you cant be at one life and keep paying one life without losing the game.
September 28, 2012 5:44 p.m.
Oops, I forgot that with card:Angel's Grace played you cant lose. So I guess you could go down to 0 and be fine as long as you gained it back before the end of your turn.
September 28, 2012 5:46 p.m.
TurtleintheShell says... #10
Thank you that answers my question and possibly more that may depend on similar circumstances.
September 28, 2012 5:50 p.m.
TurtleintheShell says... #11
@ eze01 card:Angel's Grace does not prevent loss of life.
Tunde says... #1
There are much easier ways to gain a lot of life but basically yes... You would have to sac them both and you would first gain the life you paid back and then gain that much again. This is only because you cannot lose the game with card:Angel's Grace having been played.
September 28, 2012 2:16 a.m.