Ways to work with the Reaper King
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Feb. 9, 2013, 9:05 p.m. by acbooster
I'm hashing out an idea for an EDH deck with the Reaper King as the general. What cards (other than scarecrows, of course) go well with him and would help his cause?
Epochalyptik says... #3
Rite of Replication kicked on Reaper King lets you nuke 25 targets.
February 9, 2013 9:58 p.m.
O_O Well then, that would certainly escalate very quickly. I love it.
February 9, 2013 10:01 p.m.
sage_christian1 says... #5
Rite of Replication would trigger the legendary rule, no?
February 9, 2013 10:04 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
The legend rule isn't triggered, but yes, your six Reaper King s would die. That doesn't really matter when you just vindicated everything you don't own.
February 9, 2013 10:21 p.m.
Can you go more in-depth about it? I'm sure that when I use it in a game that it will bring up disputes.
February 9, 2013 10:23 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
You kick Rite of Replication on Reaper King .
When the Rite of Replication resolves, five token copies of Reaper King all enter the battlefield simultaneously. Because they ETB at the same time, they see each other as the enter, and each Reaper King token's ability triggers for each other Reaper King token. This means each of the five entering Reaper King tokens will put four instances of its ability onto the stack. Additionally, the original Reaper King 's ability triggers five times - once for each entering token. This gives you a total of 25 abilities.
The Reaper King s all die from the legend rule, then their abilities go onto the stack. Each one will nuke something, assuming that ability's target is still legal.
February 9, 2013 10:45 p.m.
Ok, thanks. I always get confused with ETB effects.
February 9, 2013 10:47 p.m.
So if I had Doubling Season on the field when I played a kicked Rite of Replication , I could nuke 100 permanents?
February 9, 2013 10:51 p.m.
candlehawk says... #14
But if you had an odd number (greater than one of course) all enter at the same time, would it legend rule them all still?
February 10, 2013 12:56 a.m.
Yeah, since more than one would be on the battlefield at one time.
February 10, 2013 1:01 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #16
The legend rule is not a by-pair thing. All legendary permanents with the same name are put into their owners' graveyards. They aren't paired off by the legend rule such that an odd permanent out might survive.
February 10, 2013 1:08 a.m.
Careful with this, but Reaper King ability is not a may. I'd be careful with a Doubling Season on the board, just so you don't Obliterate the whole board.
February 10, 2013 2:10 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #18
You don't have to target different permanents. If your opponent has 10 permanents and you have 10, you can just target your opponent's 10 permanents 25 different times. Some of the abilities will just fizzle.
February 10, 2013 3:24 a.m.
Now with the legend rule changes, you even get to hold onto one of your Reapers. So nuts.
July 10, 2013 11:03 p.m.
That bit of information really wasn't worth bringing up a thread that died 5 months ago.
July 11, 2013 12:42 a.m.
Oh, you're right. Sorry for being enthusiastic about a general we both play. Should I PM you before I post in your threads in the future? Maybe I'll just kill myself. I'm not being sarcastic.
July 11, 2013 1:19 a.m.
They all enter the battlefield at the same time? I thought something that puts two creatures in play puts them in one at a time and the player with priority gets to choose the order they enter. This is how i have played ally decks in the past.
Basically because they weren't already in play when the other creatures enter play, their triggered abilities don't trigger (they only trigger for creatures etbing after they hit the battlefield)
example: reaper A in play, reaper One enters (trigger from A), reaper two enters (trigger from A & 1), reaper three enters (trigger from (A, 1,2), reaper four enters (trigger from (A, 1,2,3), reaper five enters (trigger from (A, 1,2,3,4) = 15, not 25
so it's still awesome sauce, just not like you think (at least that's how I thought it works)
Also, it would remove all of your reapers not leaving one unless it is under the opponents control
July 11, 2013 11:51 a.m.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rite+of+Replication
10/1/2009 The tokens see each other enter the battlefield. If they have a triggered ability that triggers when a creature enters the battlefield, they'll all trigger for one another.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/248f
When multiple copies are on the battlefield under one player's control, that player chooses one to put into the graveyard as a state-based effect until only one remains.
July 11, 2013 12:50 p.m.
ok so it only appies to graveyard effects....(maniacal laughter ensues) this makes my ally deck wayyyyyy more powerful.
July 11, 2013 4:18 p.m.
could I Unsummon the reaper king after placing the rite of replication on the stack?
July 11, 2013 4:25 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #26
@sholomo: You could, yes, but Rite of Replication would fizzle because the target is now illegal. It doesn't behoove you to remove the original Reaper King anyway because that's an extra five triggers.
July 11, 2013 4:30 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #27
Also, the graveyard thing lazypizza posted refers to the new legend rule only. And it's a state-based action anyway.
acbooster says... #2
Possibly Changelings to extend the reach of his effects?
February 9, 2013 9:07 p.m.