I know tons of cards have been suggested so I hesitate to ask, but I'm thinking about running Necrotic Ooze and was wondering if anyone has ran it in their build? It seems pretty good, a lot of times my key combo piece for a combo will get dealt with. With no access to recursion, this guy could act as a sort of copy of Phyrexian Ghoul, Spincrusher etc.

Myrik: The more high budget competetive lists often use Necrotic Ooze as their win-condition.

Buried Alive getting Necrotic Ooze, Triskelion and Phyrexian Devourer. Then reanimate Necrotic Ooze for instant win.

But yes, Necrotic Ooze does seem like he could be worth trying! I'm not sure if its flexibility of being usable as both parts of a combo piece makes up for the drawback of having to have one in your graveyard first.

If I own a ashmods's altar, should I play for infinite mana?

If you run Ashnods, you should also run Zulpaport Cutthroat and Blood Artist. And yes, infinite mana is handy

How would Necrotic Ooze be an instant win?

DasTree: Necrotic Ooze will have the activated abilities of both Triskelion and Phyrexian Devourer.

• Activate Phyrexian Devourers ability. If the cards converted mana cost is 3 or lower, let it resolve (If you used Animate Dead, CMC 4 works since it reduces the power by 1.)
• Then activate Triskelion's ping ability to remove the counters.
• If the cards converted mana cost is greater than 3(4) then just activate the ability again without letting it resolve.

You will end up exiling most of your library and deal in between 80-140 damage.

Yea its a pretty slick combo. Just don't do it too late into a long game unless you've been able to reshuffle your graveyard (minus Triskelion and Devourer).

But in order to reanimate Necrotic Ooze you would need to have Mikaeus out correct? Regardless that is badass. Thanks for the explanation

DasTree: No, in fact you DON'T want to have Mikaeus in play, since he makes Necrotic Ooze a 5/4 which means you can only exile cards with a CMC of 1 and 2. Winning is really hard then, you could at most kill one player.

In this deck, if Mikaeus is out, you wouldn't need Devourer. Just Triskelion and a sac outlet in graveyard.

1. Sacrifice itself

2. It reanimates itself with a +1/+1

3. Use Triskelion's effect to ping someone and remove the counter

4. Sacrifice itself.

If you use Zulpaport or Blood Artist, you can use a random guy with a +1 remover instead of Triskelion

Question, why is everyone still running Blood Artist when there is Zulaport Cutthroat? it costs the same and is a 1/1 instead of a 0/1.

Blood Artist triggers on the opponent's creature death.

Zulpaport Cutthroat is a human. Does not gain undying. I would suggest you run both if your budget allows it, because they open up several win conditions

then I guess I'm confused with the Necrotic Ooze combo. How does it get regeneration? I could add it in and it would make use another win con.

1 thing I have been thinking over the past few months or so since I have read, reread, and copied this deck; (+1 every time i see it pop up)How can WOC come up with deck lists less competitive than this, when this one is half of the going rate? They have access to a plethora of cards. Some of which only some of us dream about.

Uh, Phyrexian Devourer's ability that causes it to be sacrificed is a triggered ability, which is not copied by Necrotic Ooze.

No, the sacrifice portion of the ability is also copied, which is why you have to be very careful in how you add and remove counters. Basically any card you exile for the Devourer ability that brings Ooze's power over 7, you let get "stuck" in the stack, you only let cards that keep it at 6 power or less resolve.

ItchiUchiha117: It's both a triggered ability AND part of the activated ability (read the last line).

"When Phyrexian Devourer's power is 7 or greater, sacrifice it.

Exile the top card of your library: Put X +1/+1 counters on Phyrexian Devourer, where X is the exiled card's converted mana cost." -Oracle text on Phyrexian Devourer.

Necrotic Ooze only copies the activated abilities of creatures, not their triggered abilities, which is what the first is. The Ooze can get as big as you want it before you start removing counters for damage from Triskelion's activated ability.

You left out the last part of the ability, which is a very important condition:

"When Phyrexian Devourer's power is 7 or greater, sacrifice it.

Remove the top card of your library from the game: Put X +1/+1 counters on Phyrexian Devourer, where X is the removed card's converted mana cost. If Phyrexian Devourer's power is 7 or greater, sacrifice it."

The sacrifice condition is repeated in the card's latest printing, probably to emphasize this very point. So Ooze, like Devourer, cannot go beyond 6 power or it must be sac'ed.

No, I didn't. I copied the oracle text from Gatherer. You can even see it here.

FU errata...FU...

I've been limiting myself for so long...rofl. +1 and a tip of the hat to you ItchiUchiha117.

At any rate, you can run Necrotic Ooze in this deck without the devourer portion, since it can serve as an infinite sac outlet and/or an infinite sac fodder and/or a stand-in for Triskelion in your graveyard

ItchiUchiha117: Damn, it seems like this was a relatively recent change, because I remember checking the oracle for this a few years ago and even checking up on judge rulings where the oracle text included the sacrifice clause in the activated ability.

Heck, I'm even looking at some judge rulings right now where they say that you will have to sacrifice it (Posts from 2011).

But looking at the oracle text now, the clause is gone! Awesome!

So I'm still missing something. How do get Necrotic Ooze out of the grave yard. It doesn't have undying. And this is with Mikaeus NOT in play. So I use Buried Alive get Triskelion, Phyrexian Devourer and Necrotic Ooze. All three are now in the graveyard. How do I pull Necrotic Ooze from the grave yard? None of the cards sent there have undying. Seems there would need to be another card needed for the combo or Mikaeus on the battlefield. And then wouldn't the ooze have summoning sickness? so you couldn't use Phyrexian Devourer's abilities until the next turn? Activated abilities are different from card types so it wouldn't be an artifact. Just trying to get all the in's and out's of this. Thank you for the help.

Summoning sickness doesn't prevent the use of activated abilities. It prevents you from tapping it

Right. I knew that. Brain fart. But how to get him from the graveyard?