[cEDH Primer] To Infinity & Beyond

Commander / EDH Flash_Andretti

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Happy New Year & Happy Birthday to me UPDATE! —Jan. 3, 2020

So today is my birthday and wanted to make 2 quality of life changes to the list today.

1.) The primer has been updated and I felt it was time to.

2.) Added in 2 cards, 1 of them new to the list here (thank you Theros).

IN:

Grapeshot - this has been in and out of the list, but this time, I think it will be staying.

Underworld Breach - while it is not legal until the 24th of this month. We will be playing this. This card is straight gas! In the words of Shaper, "A card doesn't have to be maximized to be solid".

Out:

Overmaster - I have a soft spot for this card and have won games with it. But, it is not enough to keep a spot in the deck due to everything else being more important.

Azorious Signet - Izzet is the main colors focused in the deck and needed room for Underworld Breach. This won't hurt us as much.

Elfblooder says... #1

Hello, making this deck for my friends little brother can you explain your win-con a little better for me. how is Timetwister + Narset's Reversal a win-con ?

December 11, 2019 1:39 a.m.

Flash_Andretti says... #2

Elfblooder essentially if you have Smothering Tithe on board you can make infinite on board with elsha and cast from the top of your deck, granted Top and a cost reduced is on the table. Use that infinite for rolling earthquake.

You can also do the loop with Narset with the same board state and force people to have 1 card in hand each time (essentially top decking) in order to stop you.

Remember that this is a way to infinite cast, infinite mana, infinite draw and play things in the middle as interaction while holding priority. Elsha makes things easier for you.

December 11, 2019 2:10 p.m.

Elfblooder says... #3

Why no Lightning Bolt for your payload over something like Pyroclasm ? is your main wincon here Swords to Plowshares + Rolling Earthquake or Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal + Copy Artifact + Swan Song. still not sure what here wins you the game with Timetwister + Narset's Reversal

December 12, 2019 1:11 a.m.

Flash_Andretti says... #4

Elfblooder Bolt is certainly an option, so is Grapeshot (which i think is better). You can also use the TT loop for Winds of Rebuke with RIP on board and exile your opponents libraries. Swords to Plowshares & Rolling Earthquake is the main win that I go for, but have won off of double scepter. TT loops are usually my plan C.

December 12, 2019 1:50 a.m.

Spoosky says... #5

Hello, i recommend Approach of the Second Sun , i attached you the decklist of my elsha, it is not as competitive as yours but it works https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/elshapolin/

December 12, 2019 11:31 a.m.

ControlPatrol says... #6

Hi there, I was wondering if you've considered Monestary Mentor or Counterbalance? Monestary Mentor seems like it might be good to out pressure on Necropotence//Ad Nauseum players (although it's a do nothing late game) and Counterbalance seems good considering you get to look at the top card before you trigger it, also alongside Top and Scroll Rack it might be worth looking at.

December 26, 2019 9:46 p.m.

Flash_Andretti says... #7

ControlPatrol Hello, thank you for checking the deck out. As far as mentor goes, for creature slots, other creatures such as Hushbringer or Baral, Chief of Compliance would be better suited to fill in that slot, if i were to add in more. I see it makes infinite tokens but, this deck only uses Elsha prowess triggers to burn the table with Rolling Earthquake . As for Counterbalance I have tested it out before, back when I was on Proteus Staff and when I converted this deck to its current iteration. It's a good card, my only issue with it is this. It's dead in opening hands, dependent on Elsha being on the table and playing it early can allow your opponents better gage what is in your hand or could be in your hand. I'm fine with players knowing, but only when I allow it. It's non-discreet and risky to play, so I cut it after playing it for a while. I'm not saying don't play it, just be aware that these are the issues you will run into when using it.

December 26, 2019 10:29 p.m.

ControlPatrol says... #8

That's a perfect response, thanks! I'm also thinking of Tidespout Tyrant for my list, it can easily provide infinite mana/prowess triggers. Would you consider it an unnecessary "win more" card? For all it counts it's also a Djinn which synergize with Cavern of Souls.

December 28, 2019 4:26 p.m.

Flash_Andretti says... #9

ControlPatrol only run it if you are going to be on Proteus Staff and if you are, it should be your only creature in the deck. That way you can tuck Elsha away into the command zone and bring out Tidespout. With this, if you have two rocks on the table, you just win, preferably a 2 cmc rock or lower that produces any color with a combination of Mana Vault/Mana Crypt/Sol Ring to make infinite mana. Then just go off!

December 28, 2019 6:58 p.m.