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Abyssal Specter
Creature — Specter
Flying
Whenever Abyssal Specter deals damage to a player, that player discards a card.
legendofa on Tourach, Dread Cantor
1 year ago
Welcome to the club, Thefrench!
How about some repeatable discard? Disrupting Scepter is kind of the low end, specter creatures like Abyssal Specter or Hypnotic Specter provide damage-based discard, and triggered discard like Bottomless Pit through Cunning Lethemancer and Necrogen Mists to Anvil of Bogardan provide reliable counters for your commander, depending on how much money you're willing to spend. Liliana's Caress gets a one-mana discount off Megrim for a very similar effect.
DrukenReaps on Irenicus' Experimental "Donations"
2 years ago
Coward_Token Yeah... I'm stuck between safe and ...unsafe? It just feels like the safe version would work more smoothly at all points in the game but it seems weird to use this commander for that. Like if I'm just using Abyssal Specter and friends why not use any other commander that might work better with those cards?
Think I just talked myself out of the safe idea lol. Really I just need to experiment with ways I can handle the downsides of the donations when they come back around.
DVLuca on Nath All In Discard MH1
5 years ago
Abyssal Specter and Needle Specter can be cut for Mindslicer that's much more powerfull and Mind Shatter. I dont know your budget but if you can afford Volrath's Stronghold for more redundancy would be wonderfull, otherwise Phyrexian Reclamation is another one. If you increase the number of elf Elvish Soultillercan be usefull.
ExpletoryOrb on what am i doing
5 years ago
alright so here goes, so the cards to the left can be swapped with the ones to the right, it has the same or very similair effect but for a reduced mana cost etc.
Bloodtallow Candle -> Dismember
Whispers of Emrakul -> Hymn to Tourach
Painful Lesson -> Night's Whisper (there is also: Sign in Blood
Lethal Sting -> Victim of Night (there is also Go for the Throat)
Dutiful Return -> Ghoulcaller's Chant ? (its cheaper and will almost always be for a zombie? a lot cheeper but its your call.)
Abyssal Specter -> Hypnotic Specter
the next ones are cards i think you should strip, i will list them and then explain why:
Ruin Rat : you already have a few of these, and this isnt even a zombie. there are just better cards out there that arent expensive at all, (i'll give some suggestions further down the post)
Shambling Attendants : Just strictly bad, you dont want to play a 3/5 dude for 8 mana ever.
Cruel Feeding : its just pretty bad, the strive cost is very expensive just to +1/0 lifelink. dont use this unless you had something specific in mind that i didnt catch up on reading the list.
Duress and Divest : these never really do much, yes you get to pick away 1 card and see 1 hand but you will almost never hit anything especially good, only run this if you are planning to do a lot of 1v1 EDH.
Here are some suggestions of cards that are very cheap and are pretty good:
CorrosiveKnifer on Dread Dimir
5 years ago
I'd think the idea of making your opponent draw could be useful. Problem is that in multiplayer you have to discard a card per player to keep the hand control.
Adding: - Psychic Possession: To make it so their draw is your draw. - Compulsive Research: To make them draw/discard more like Wistful Thinking - Abyssal Nocturnus: To benefit from them discarding, Where casting Wistful Thinking gives it a +8/+8 or Compulsive Research a +4/+4. because of its per card. - Abyssal Specter: To add more board presence and discard. - Devastation Tide/Displacement Wave/Evacuation: To gain control of the board to flow back into discarding. - Waste Not: Win condition with discard. - Megrim: Bonus damage per discard. - Shrieking Affliction: WIN CONDITION!
bushido_man96 on
6 years ago
If you're going to run Maralen of the Mornsong as your commander, then I don't see why you'd want to keep all of your draw spells and enchantments in there. You can't draw the cards, either. You need to run Necropotence, because its effect isn't a draw, so you get the cards. Scroll Rack would be another good addition. You may also want to consider creatures like Hypnotic Specter and Abyssal Specter.
Snap157 on Rack em up boys!
6 years ago
Hymn to Tourach is better than Mind Rot
Raven's Crime is powerful with Dakmor Salvage
Take out basilica
I would add 2 Hypnotic Specter and take out 2 Abyssal Specter.
Take out 2 Megrim add in 2 Liliana's Caress.
Temple Bell works against you, I would put in The Rack.
Blackmail, Thoughtseize, Duress, and even Despise work well here.
If you have the cash, Liliana of the Veil is played a lot in this kind of deck, but Necrogen Mists also works quite well.
Sangromancer is nice, but lifegain doesn't win games. I would add in Phyrexian Obliterator or Shrieking Affliction. Hope this helps!
nonjon on Suit Up - Basic (C/U)
7 years ago
(16) MODERN PURE decks as of 04/17/17
Delver and the Hasteful Eight (BLUE/RED)
10 spells, 20 land
- Delver of Secrets Flip, Monastery Swiftspear, Stormchaser Mage = 3 creature
- Lightning Bolt, Burst Lightning, Remand, Electrolyze, Into the Roil = 5 instant
- Serum Visions, Sleight of Hand = 2 sorcery
- 10xIsland, 10xMountain
Sideboard: Pyroclasm, Relic of Progenitus, Smash to Smithereens, Shrine of Burning Rage
Elves (GREEN/black)
10 spells, 20 land
- Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, Arbor Elf, Elvish Visionary, Imperious Perfect, Shaman of the Pack, Dwynen's Elite = 7 creature
- Rancor, Overrun, Vines of Vastwood = 3 spells
- Jungle Hollow, 12xForest, 4xSwamp
Sideboard: Doom Blade, Elves of Deep Shadow, Putrefy, Naturalize
Veterans (WHITE commons only)
10 spells, 20 land
- Veteran Armorsmith, Veteran Swordsmith, Veteran Armorer, Thraben Inspector, Kor Skyfisher, Gideon's Lawkeeper = 6 creature
- Raise the Alarm, Guardians' Pledge = 2 instant
- Oblivion Ring, Angelic Gift = 2 enchantment
- Sandstone Bridge, 16xPlains
Sideboard: Journey to Nowhere, Kor Hookmaster, Kor Sanctifiers, Infantry Veteran
Soul Sisters (WHITE)
10 spells, 20 land
- Soul Warden, Soul's Attendant, Suture Priest, Martyr of Sands, Ajani's Pridemate, Serene Steward = 6 creatures
- Brave the Elements, Spectral Procession, Ajani's Mantra, Oblivion Ring = 4 spells
- Blighted Steppe, 16xPlains
Sideboard: Harm's Way, Celestial Purge, Faith's Fetters, Armored Ascension
Goblin Tokens (RED)
10 spells, 20 land
- Goblin Bushwhacker, Reckless Bushwhacker, Young Pyromancer = 3 creatures
- Dragon Fodder, Krenko's Command, Hordeling Outburst, Goblin Assault = 4 token makers
- Dynacharge, Lightning Bolt, Goblin Grenade = 3 spells
- Teetering Peaks, Smoldering Spires, 12xMountain
Sideboard: Electrickery, Massive Raid, Destructive Tampering, Goblin Rally
Drain Inspector (BLACK)
9 spells, 24 land
- Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Specter, Abyssal Specter, Bloodhusk Ritualist, Gray Merchant of Asphodel = 5 creatures
- Corrupt, Tendrils of Corruption, Disfigure, Wrench Mind = 4 spells
- 24xSwamp
Sideboard: Consume Spirit, Marsh Casualties, Shrieking Affliction, Mind Sludge
Trondrazi Fire (RED/GREEN)
9 spells, 24 land
- Ulamog's Crusher, Artisan of Kozilek = 2 creatures
- Firespout, Savage Twister = 2 sorcery wipes
- Expedition Map, Gruul Signet, Darksteel Ingot = 3 artifact ramps
- Apostle's Blessing, Spatial Contortion = 2 instants
- Urza's Mine, Urza's Tower, Urza's Power Plant, Gruul Turf, Fungal Reaches, Rugged Highlands = 6 land
Sideboard: Lightning Bolt, Shrapnel Blast, Darksteel Sentinel, Volcanic Geyser
Spellbombo (ESPER - WHITE/BLUE/BLACK)
10 spells, 20 land
- Aether Spellbomb, Necrogen Spellbomb, Origin Spellbomb = 3 spellbombs
- Sword of the Meek, Thopter Foundry, Ensoul Artifact, Tezzeret's Touch = 4 danger zones
- Doom Blade, Muddle the Mixture, Oblivion Ring = 3 spells
- Arcane Sanctum, Darksteel Citadel, Scoured Barrens, Tranquil Cove, Dismal Backwater = 5 land
Sideboard: Disciple of the Vault, Restoration Specialist, Nihil Spellbomb, Sunbeam Spellbomb
Bogle Battle Rattle (GREEN/RED)
10 spells, 20 land
- Slippery Bogle, Gladecover Scout, Silhana Ledgewalker = 3 hexproof creature
- Titan's Strength, Wild Hunger, Ghor-Clan Rampager, Temur Battle Rage = 4 instant-pumps
- Madcap Skills, Boar Umbra = 2 pants
- Lightning Bolt because red.
- 10xForest, 10xMountain
Sideboard: Giant Growth, Electrickery, Destructive Revelry, Fling
Faeries (BLUE/BLACK)
10 spells, 20 land
- Faerie Miscreant, Faerie Impostor, Spellstutter Sprite, Pestermite, Dreamspoiler Witches, Thieving Sprite = 6 creature
- Remand, Peppersmoke, Far / Away, Traumatic Visions = 4 spells
- Dismal Backwater, 10xIsland, 6xSwamp
Sideboard: Doom Blade, Agony Warp, Negate, Faerie Harbinger
Mill-town (BLUE/BLACK)
9 spells, 24 land
- Curse of the Bloody Tome, Sphinx's Tutelage = 2 enchantment
- AEtherize, Grisly Spectacle, Psychic Strike, Thought Scour = 4 instants
- Mind Funeral, Psychic Drain, Drown in Sorrow = 3 sorceries
- Dismal Backwater, 10xIsland, 10xSwamp
Sideboard: Balustrade Spy, Far / Away, Psychic Spiral, Illness in the Ranks
Lingering Tokens (WHITE/black)
10 spells, 20 land
- Lingering Souls, Spectral Procession, Gather the Townsfolk, Raise the Alarm, Doomed Traveler = 5 token makers
- Intangible Virtue, Oblivion Ring = 2 enchantment
- Brave the Elements, Disfigure, Zealous Persecution = 3 instant
- Scoured Barrens, 12xPlains, 4xSwamp
Sideboard: Doom Blade, Rootborn Defenses, Marsh Casualties, Phantom General
Warriors (WHITE/BLACK)
10 spells, 20 land
- Chief of the Edge, Chief of the Scale, Blood-Chin Rager, Herald of Dromoka, Mardu Hordechief, Sultai Scavenger, Merciless Executioner = 7 creature
- Tragic Slip, Feat of Resistance, Zealous Persecution = 3 instant
- Scoured Barrens, 8xPlains, 8xSwamp
Sideboard: Rush of Battle, Timely Hordemate, Grasp of Darkness, Raiders' Spoils
Viralbots (BLUE)
10 spells, 20 land
- Blighted Agent, Chained Throatseeker, Plague Myr, Phyrexian Juggernaut = 4 infect creatures
- Aether Spellbomb, Pristine Talisman, Cranial Plating, Swiftfoot Boots = 4 artifacts
- Stoic Rebuttal, Artful Dodge = 2 spells
- Darksteel Citadel, 16xIslands
Sideboard: AEtherize, Corpse Cur, Rapid Hybridization, Corrupted Conscience
Dorkless Burn (RED/white)
10 spells, 20 land
- Lightning Bolt, Boros Charm, Lightning Helix, Skullcrack, Shard Volley, Magma Jet = 6 instant
- Rift Bolt, Lava Spike = 2 sorcery
- Pyrite Spellbomb, Curse of the Pierced Heart = 1 artifact, 1 enchant
- 14xMountain, 6xPlains
All do damage to the face, a bit more than half can aim for creatures too.
Sideboard: Pyroclasm, Searing Blood, Smash to Smithereens, Journey to Nowhere
Fancy Pants (WHITE/blue)
10 spells, 20 land
- Heliod's Pilgrim, Vanguard of Brimaz, Meletis Astronomer = 3 creatures
- Spirit Mantle, Bonds of Faith, Faith Unbroken, Shielding Plax, Ethereal Armor, Ephara's Enlightenment = 6 pants
- Aura Finesse = 1 fancy
- 12xPlains, 8xIslands
Sideboard: Auramancer, Recumbent Bliss, Eel Umbra, Ordeal of Heliod