Pariah's Shield + Stuffy Doll + Pariah

Asked by Shape_Shifter 6 years ago

During a game i had two days ago i had this funny situation.

My opponent used the combo of having a Stuffy Doll equiped with Pariah's Shield. So any dammage i do to him, goes to stuffy doll which sends it back to me.

At this time i had Pariah in hand. I could enchant the stuffy doll to redirect dammage going to me to stuffy doll.

Now the question is: What happens to the dammage? Its some kind of never ending loop ?Is someone forced to take the dammage in this case ?

Thanks in advance.

ClockworkSwordfish says... Accepted answer #1

Yes, it would be an infinite loop. If Stuffy Doll redirected the damage then that wouldn't be the case (individual replacement effects can only be applied to an event once,) but each time damage is redirected to it by Pariah, it does a new batch of damage to you.

July 27, 2017 4:59 a.m.

Quantumsandwich says... #2

To build on ClockworkSwordfish's answer, this loop would constitute a mandatory infinite loop as neither you nor your opponent can make any choices to end it. If neither of you has a card that can be cast to break the loop, then the loop is infinite and unbreakable in which case rule 421.4 applies and the game is a draw.

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July 27, 2017 12:53 p.m.

sonnet666 says... #3

The loop is:

  1. Damage would be dealt to your opponent.
  2. Damage is redirected from them to Stuffy Doll.
  3. Stuffy Doll's ability triggers and goes on the stack.
  4. Round of priority
  5. Stuffy Doll's ability resolves and attempts to deal damage to you.
  6. Damage is redirected from you to Stuffy Doll.
  7. Repeat 3 to 6 forever.

Note that this is an infinite loop if you enchant your opponent's Stuffy Doll with Pariah and then you take damage, even if your opponent didn't have their own Pariah's Shield.

July 27, 2017 1:06 p.m.

ticked-off-squirrel says... #4

What if I have my own stuffy doll with my own shield and I choose myself for stuffy doll? Would that cause an infinite loop as well?

November 29, 2021 12:03 a.m.

Omniscience_is_life says... #5

ticked-off-squirrel it would.

What would happen is

  1. Stuffy Doll gets dealt damage. It says "oh, time to deal that much damage to the chosen player".

  2. Pariah's Shield says "wait, damage it being dealt to the equipped creature's controller! Time to redirect it to the equipped creature!"

  3. The Doll takes damage, and step 1 repeats, therefore repeating step 2, and so on.

November 29, 2021 12:10 a.m.

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