If I turn a card colourless with a card like Mycosynth Lattice, how does that effect devotion, convoke, protection and any other colour-centic abilities I have missed?
Asked by JoyTheEnbySliverLover 5 years ago
For an example of a colour-centric ability, if I was to have Ramos, Dragon Engine and Mycosynth Lattice out, would spells not give Ramos the +1/+1 counters from its second ability?
Ramos' second ability being:
"Whenever you cast a spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Ramos, Dragon Engine for each of that spell's colours"
For convoke, it's oddly bad. You can spend mana as though it were mana of any color, so colorless mana can pay for the colored symbols. But you can still only tap creatures to pay for colored symbols by tapping a creature of that color (which you don't have) or paying a mana of any type.
702.50a Convoke is a static ability that functions while the spell with convoke is on the stack. "Convoke" means "For each colored mana in this spell's total cost, you may tap an untapped creature of that color you control rather than pay that mana. For each generic mana in this spell's total cost, you may tap an untapped creature you control rather than pay that mana."
Kogarashi says... Accepted answer #1
Ramos, Dragon Engine would not get counters, since the spells would be colorless.
Devotion would still work as intended, since it cares about colored mana symbols, not a permanent's actual color. So Thassa, God of the Sea would still be able to check how many symbols are in the mana costs of your permanents, and if that number is 5 or more, it would be a creature.
Convoke would only work for generic costs, but that's fine because spells with convoke would be colorless.
Protection from (Color) would not function as intended, because spells and permanents would now be colorless and be able to get past that. So any spell would be able to target Emrakul, the Aeons Torn for example.
Conspire would not work, because one would need to tap two creatures that share a color with the Conspire spell, and colorless is not a color.
Spells and abilities that care about color, such as tapping creatures of X color or countering spells of X color, would not work, as permanents and spells would now be colorless. Same with cards that care about you casting a spell of a given color.
I can't think of other abilities that care about color off the top of my head.
October 28, 2018 11:02 p.m.