How does Storm Count work?
Asked by DiceMaster3 5 years ago
I have Possibility Storm, Eye of the Storm and Zada, Hedron Grinder on the field I then cast Fit of Rage targeting Zada, Hedron Grinder. If I have 5 other creatures on the field, what does my Storm Count go to?
It depends on whether spells are cast or not.
Fit of Rage is cast, so Storm count would go up by 1.
Possibility Storm exiles the Fit of Rage and replaces it with another sorcery from your library, and casts it. Storm count would go up by 1.
Eye of the Storm turns this into a headache. Here's a link for how it interacts with Possibility Storm: https://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/eye-of-the-storm-possibility-storm-an-instant-or-sorcery/
Regardless, each copy that Eye of the Storm creates is cast, so each copy would increase the Storm count by 1. The copies won't trigger Possibility Storm because they're not from hand, but if you stack your triggers the other way, Possibility Storm will trigger Eye of the Storm twice, for even more Storm count increases.
Zada, Hedron Grinder, on the other hand, doesn't actually cast any copies. It just creates them directly on the stack, so it doesn't affect the Storm count at all.
It's tricky to tell what your Storm count would be at, but probably not as high as you think. It's at least 3, just from the spells you've listed.
June 21, 2018 5:31 p.m.
The real question is how many cards are already exiled by Eye of the Storm. If none, then your storm count will be at most 5. Assuming you control both Eye of the Storm and Possibility Storm you can exile Fit of Rage to Eye of the Storm and re-cast it out of there (2). Then you'll cast a random instant from Possibility Storm despite not exiling a card to it, because it doesn't require a card to be exiled once it's triggered (3). That instant will then trigger Eye of the Storm, which will exile it and allow you to both recast it and Fit of Rage (4 & 5). If there are already cards exiled by Eye of the Storm your storm count can be much higher, as you can cast each of those cards twice.
Your storm count can also be as low as 1, if you decline to cast any cards from Eye of the Storm or Possibility Storm, as neither require you to do so.
June 22, 2018 2:51 p.m.
Thanks for the math, Neotrup.
Of course, if you're going for storm, you'd probably want to arrange things to get the count as high as possible.
June 22, 2018 3:10 p.m.
stensiagamekeeper says... #5
Also all those 6 creatures will get +6/+6 assuming you layer everything correctly.
June 22, 2018 11:44 p.m.
+9/+9, with Zada, Hedron Grinder only getting +6/+6. Fit of Rage is cast 3 times, with it only being removed from the stack once. The copies still resolve.
June 22, 2018 11:54 p.m.
stensiagamekeeper says... #7
True, forgot zada triggers the first time despite the spell getting exiled.
Vixxxx says... #1
Copies of spells do not affect storm count and do not proc any "When player casts spell" effects and so on as you don't cast the copies
June 21, 2018 4:49 p.m.