MS: Judgment

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Posted on May 17, 2017, 12:17 p.m. by Phaetion

That ending gave me the chills. Discuss.

Read, and despair, for the Hours have come!

OneItsStarted says... #2

All my hopes and dreams are coming true, gideon is going to die, and we will finally be forced to see less of the gatewatch! Unfortunately with a "good" character dying, it becomes more likely that the gatewatch will defeat nicol bolas because of the magic of friendship, but it at least is still up to some debate.

May 17, 2017 12:37 p.m.

AgentGreen says... #3

Phaetion Beat me by one minute you jacka** :P

Gideon is not going to die.

But the finale of the storyline was awesome

May 17, 2017 12:43 p.m.

RicketyEng says... #4

Chilling, yes, that is the word for it. It's hard to get more ominous than an omniscient god predicting your own death. Gideon finally believes it's possible too. I actually suspect that this would make for a wonderful bait-and-switch. Maybe we're getting a prediction of Gideon's death now, but of course the details are vague enough that no one knows when it will happen. Will Gideon have time to learn from his past hubris before it gets him killed, or will it be his fatal flaw like so many tragic Greek heroes that came before him?

I liked Nissa's part in the discussions at the sarcophogi. She is already being more active, confident, and assertive in the conversation.

I laughed heartily when Nissa threw Jace at an enemy! That was some amazing comedic value. In a fist fight that's all he's useful for anyway. My wife is going to love that bit too; she hates Jace.

May 17, 2017 12:45 p.m.

DaftVader says... #5

Gideon will die, but apparently not before he meets some new gods on a new plane, so I wouldn't recommend holding your breath.

May 17, 2017 12:55 p.m.

Phaetion says... #6

AgentGreen: You're welcome :p

I think Gideon will perish in Theros 2.0. It would bring everything full-circle.

May 17, 2017 1 p.m.

Zaueski says... #7

Damn lol, those Cartouches are the real deal. Blocking the gatewatch from their magic?

Gideon's death is prophesied!!! He's definitely going down here or in Theros 2.0, either way I hope they give him a good death... He still needs to die, but let him go out as the hero.


May 17, 2017 1:14 p.m.

AgentGreen says... #8

It could be a double meaning guys

**I am neither the first nor the last immortal whom you will cross.

Cursed is the man who forgets his own past,

for I see your death, Kytheon Iora.

You are no god.**

What if the death is not a death; but really Gideon basically saying the one named Kytheon is no more; and fully embraces his identity of Gideon

May 17, 2017 1:19 p.m.

Zaueski says... #9

@AgentGreen: Please for the love of Bolas no.

May 17, 2017 1:20 p.m.

AgentGreen says... #10

Zaueski Aggressive point He's going to live on and you're going to enjoy it!

May 17, 2017 1:39 p.m.

Homura_Akemi says... #11

Gideon is so going to die, but anyway.

Loved that story, agree with the chilling, emotional ending, very well done.

It was great when we see the Gatewatch all fighting, Chandra going at it with Lili at her side and Nissa tossing Jace lol.

Also, I was really surprised/triggered when Nissa, Gids, and even Chandra all attacked Liliana after she revealed that her third demon, Razaketh, is on Amonkhet. I mean, Chandra was just pissed at the omission and Jace was too cowardly to defend her, but really Nissa?!!! I expect this from Gids, not you. Liliana is clearly still working on what being part of a team means, nevermind trusting other people. It was still a big step for her to kind of overcome that nervousness of telling the others, to be honest to them, and I feel like they didn't really appreciate or understand that gesture of hers. Yes, bad timing, but better late than never, right?

May 17, 2017 2:15 p.m.

DuTogira says... #12

I'm ok with Samut being white instead of blue now. Dat steadfast resolve though; out-stubborning a god! Forget djeru, I want samut's spark to ignite.
Also, loved wizards poking fun at the fact that they've handled the gatewatch rather clumsily, especially jace. Literary gold right there.

May 17, 2017 4:49 p.m.

DuTogira says... #13

Homura_Akemi I'd actually expect that kind of reaction more from Nissa than Chandra. Nissa has trust issues stemming from her social awkwardness. If she felt used I could totally see her getting mad.
I think that whole blurb was really just poorly handled. Why, right before a fight with bolas, would liliana think it prudent to bring Razaketh up? She's too good at manipulating people to not know better than to just blurt something like that out on a whim.
There was potential there for character development within the gatewatch at the hands of such an admission; there could have been a whole fight about it after the bolas issue was... I guess "resolved" is the most closely fitting word. Instead wizards blew that potential on one paragraph that even the gatewatch - rightfully - deemed unimportant in the face of an impending bolas, and now whenever that issue gets returned to, its handling will feel clumsy by nature. I guess there's potential for it to cause a fight for leadership between Gids and jace, but I have a feeling that will just be resolved with jace screwing with gid's mind to get him to comply after convincing Chandra and Nissa that the gatewatch are a team and that means they have an obligation to help their own, or some crap like that.

May 17, 2017 9:26 p.m.

Damn, that was awesome! I'm enjoying Amonkhet more and more.

I also enjoyed Nissa throwing Cloak Boy! Now if Bolas can toss him about a bit and kill Gideon I shall be extremely pleased.

I do think it's unlikely that that WotC kills off Gideon though, I agree with whoever said it may be more of "Kytheon" dying and him embracing a new life among his new friends as "Gideon". Although I could be, and hope that I am wrong.

No matter what they decide to do I think I'm going to enjoy the rest of the stories quite a bit. I cannot wait until Bolas' return in Hour of Devastation.

May 18, 2017 12:12 a.m.

Twanicus says... #15

Left field prediction: Gideon dies in Theros 2.0, but only after retribution againt Heliod. Something-something plotline --->Gideon becomes Theros' new white god. The legend of Beefslab lives on, and we get a new mono white walker for a while. Heard it here first, kids.

May 18, 2017 12:45 a.m.

Homura_Akemi says... #16

DuTogira Good point, Nissa does have those trust issues and I agree that it was strange and badly timed to throw that in there.

May 18, 2017 5:39 a.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #17

This was an excellent story, especially with the tension between Samut and Djeru; I do hope that Djeru redeems himself by the end of this block, and does not die a senseless (from Samut's perspective) death.

I imagine that Bolas shall be appearing soon, so I expect his arrival to be epic and supremely dramatic.

I definitely do not believe that Gideon shall die in this arc, because he still has to return to Theros, so perhaps he may die after he returns there.

May 18, 2017 10:08 p.m.

RicketyEng says... #18

Here's an idea: I think it could be possible that Nakht, Samut, and Djeru are the three missing gods reincarnated. Today's podcast said it would be a shame to just do away with three gods. I would suppose that these three friends are fated to be instrumental in helping the other gods reclaim their lost identities.

I have another idea I think would be neat too but I'm uncertain how it would work with what I just stated above. What if Djeru is a planewalker about to spark? OR! What if Nakht is a planewalker? Either way, Maro said on Monday that there is a new planeswalker in the block and I think it is one of these two.

May 24, 2017 12:28 p.m.

greyninja says... #19

No magic story this week?! I was all ready to read it on my lunch break! :(

May 24, 2017 2:12 p.m.

Phaetion says... #20

The next one comes out June 7th, I believe. Before that is a nod to Commander Anthology.

May 24, 2017 5:54 p.m.

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