Door of destinies - Wording
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Posted on July 2, 2020, 1:51 p.m. by PagHimself
So I'm not sure why Door of Destinies doesn't specify ''add +1/+1 COUNTER for each charge counter on Door... Unless it a base value boost until end of turn. The card ruling : If you cast a creature spell of the chosen type, Door of Destinies will get a charge counter before the creature enters the battlefield. The creature will enter the battlefield with the additional boost to its power and toughness. Is the so called boost a +1/+1 counter or a +1/+1 until end of turn. I think specifying it on the card would lead to less questionning. Am I missing something obvious? Also is this the right place to ask for cards specifications?
TriusMalarky says... #3
A creature's actual P/T is equal to its base P/T plus any modifiers. Door of Destinies is what is called an "anthem" effect. Glorious Anthem is the best example. It does what it says -- it gives them +1/+1 for each charge counter. 'Until end of turn' is something tacked on to make it temporary.
What you're likely missing is experience. That is a fairly common effect. Many sets have at least one card that does that. There are Anthems, Lords(like Lord of Atlantis) printed all the time. Granted, they're not used often -- they're a pretty narrow effect that only works in some decks -- but they exist in droves.
July 2, 2020 1:58 p.m.
PagHimself says... #4
Thx guys, I knew I'd feel dumb after asking... I knew I was missing something. Thx!
July 2, 2020 2:33 p.m.
PagHimself don't worry about it, MTG can get confusing sometimes and it's better to ask.
July 2, 2020 2:35 p.m.
RNR_Gaming says... #6
It's better to ask questions than assume. Effects like these definitely confuse newer players and often times at pre release they try and put dice on their creatures to represent that buff; which can misrepresent the game state and make judge calls a bit messy going forward.
July 2, 2020 6:02 p.m.
TriusMalarky says... #7
Oh yeah, it's really important not to mark things like that on your creatures. Only put counters on it if
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a) You actually put counters on it, like a +1/+1 counter
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b) You're forgetful and want to use a different and obviously differentiated dice to mark how much damage the creature has taken that turn. Remember to tell your opponent something along the lines of 'this red dice is representing the damage it's taken this turn' if you do that, and remember to remove the dice when the turn ends. People will understand if you explain.
I've had people get really defensive and angry about counter rules. Just in case you ever experience this, here's some summaries:
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Never mark P/T changes on the creature if they came from things like Anthems or buff spells. If you forget to take the change off, it can really imbalance the game in your favor and can be viewed as cheating, which can have bad repurcussions. Also, it's confusing to all the more experienced players and the judge.
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Don't use two dice to mark a creature's total P/T unless it's Tarmogoyf, in which case you should probably just use one dice. On cards like Goyf above, where their P/T is based on other variables, I use one dice and make sure to place it over top of the P/T box and leave it there. You will want to track it somehow instead of rechecking stuff all over again. Just make sure that people know that's what you're doing.
Have fun with whatever you're doing with Door. At least, I presume you were planning on using it in some way since you found it and asked a question. Maybe you're just real curious.
July 3, 2020 10:29 a.m.
TonyStark9001 says... #8
reading the card explains the card. it does not specify counters, so it does not add counters. it does not specify "until the end of turn", so the buff is permanent.
Massacar says... #2
So long as Door of Destinies is on the field, all associated creatures of the correct type will get x +1/+1 counters, where x is the number of charges on the door. The counters are conditional to the continued presence of the door.
July 2, 2020 1:56 p.m.