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Oo, I love this idea!

I have a "new-zilek" EDH deck that I really enjoy. I think he's the best choice for a commander because you can throw a lot of ramp into the deck, play out your whole hand to ramp into Kozilek, and then draw fresh cards. Plus the activated ability is a fun one in commander. Here's my list if you're curious: Kozi Kozi Commander (Colorless Eldrazi EDH)

No idea on 4 or 5-color Eldrazi, but it sounds like a cool idea!

In blue I tend to favor counterspells to deal with artifacts, like Dovin's Veto , but since you're in Esper you also get the best of "black and white can remove anything": Anguished Unmaking , Conclave Tribunal , Fractured Identity , Utter End are all good, flexible options.

Hey! Maybe Thalisse, Reverent Medium and Blind Obedience should be in? I'd also recommend Favorable Winds over Empyrean Eagle or Thunderclap Wyvern since it's an enchantment. Gravitational Shift can be a game-ender, too, and Throne of the God-Pharaoh quadruples your combat damage.

I haven't actually built this in paper, but I brewed up an Alela deck a few months ago, so this might function as a list of cards to consider: Alela fun stuff

Where I might make cuts: Ravenform
Tezzeret's Touch and Ensoul Artifact
Witching Well
Tezzeret the Schemer
Fabricate since you don't have very powerful artifacts to look for
Sharuum the Hegemon
Animating Faerie

I think you need to word it like so:

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Repeat this process X times:

Gain control of target nonland permanent. Then, you you may exchange control of that permanent and another target nonland permanent with an opponent who doesn't own it.

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Otherwise you can cast this for X = 0 and still gain control of one nonland permanent, which is pretty under-rate.

Cloudchaser.Kestrel I just mean Bell Borca, Spectral Sergeant would probably be the commander, since he gives card advantage.

Cloudchaser.Kestrel Thanks for the suggestions! I considered Gift of Immortality but I'm not just gunning for the combo ASAP (or this would be a Bell Borca deck probably) so I'd rather just run the tutors to find Angelic Renewal . Boonweaver Giant is interesting though since it goes and tutors the enchantment as well, so I'll pop it in the maybeboard and see whether I can fit it in.

VampRamped Thank you! I don't want to load up on self-exile unless it can play the card too, since I can't actually mill that many cards at a time, but I probably should run Relic of Progenitus since it's a good rate.

It looks pretty good for multiplayer to me! My only comments: I'm a little surprised to see a few boardwipes; you're definitely going to be the aggressive creature deck and boardwipes are usually your enemy! I understand the desire to have a reset button in the deck, but I think maybe focusing on more spot removal for problematic creatures would be helpful. You could swap Wrath of God , Day of Judgment and Martial Coup for Swords to Plowshares , Path to Exile , and Banishing Light for example.

My other suggestion would be to take out some of the really high-cost cards like Zendikar Resurgent , Kindred Summons , and Doubling Season . There's not a huge counters or tokens emphasis with cat tribal and the value of Zendikar Resurgent is nice, but at that point in the game you probably just want ways to get around big things on the board or get in for that last bit of damage.

I'd recommend adding a few protection pieces instead. These get a bit expensive so whatever you can afford or proxy: Heroic Intervention , Wrap in Vigor , Teferi's Protection . Alternatively I'd replace the above with some good aggressive equipment like Stoneforge Masterwork , Hammer of Nazahn , and Maul of the Skyclaves .

Hope that helps!!

Hardhitta7 yeah, Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator is my commander for my R/U pirates deck, so I'm not sure how great he his on his own, but since it makes a treasure every turn I thought I should mention it!

Storm the Vault  ^Flip ends up just being pretty slow, I wasn't super impressed with it in my deck! But mine is more about having Treasures around and not necessarily about casting huge spells, so maybe it's better in this list.

Yeah, I used to do the same thing - start with 35 lands and then cut some usually - but I just read a StarCity article that argued for 39 lands as an average so I brought all of my decks up to 37-ish at least. It's actually much better. Have to mulligan much less often. I encourage you to give it a try!

Some instant/sorcery possibilities for you: Acquire
Kefnet's Last Word since you can uniquely avoid the downside of not untapping your lands
Shrewd Negotiation
Expropriate
Blasphemous Act
Sea Gate Restoration  ^Flip
Blatant Thievery
Sublime Epiphany

You could also run take-extra-turn spells to pretty good effect, but that's up to you.

Here are some additional cards to consider that are good in a R/U artifact/Treasures deck: Hellkite Tyrant
Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator
Shimmer Dragon

I might swap in "eggs" for artifacts rather than ones that need to go to the GY to draw you cards, since you want them on the field for your commander's ability:
Golden Egg
Guild Globe
Prophetic Prism

And some ideas for cuts, just based on being overall weaker cards:
Storm the Vault  ^Flip
Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp
Call the Skybreaker
Pull from Tomorrow
Spellbook
Urza's Bauble
Welding Jar
Mishra's Bauble
Magma Opus

Finally, and I hate to suggest it since it means more cuts, but I think you should eventually be at 35 or 36 lands even with all of the ramp. 33 is pretty low unless you're running the full Mana Vault / Mana Crypt etc. cEDH manabase. I hope this gives you a good place to start!

Mcat1999 these are good suggestions! Thank you! I haven't gone through and added a removal package yet since I usually just slam whatever white removal is sitting around, but Generous Gift is too on flavor to ignore.

Heckin up my alley, thanks for the tag! As soon as TCGPlayer stops messing around and locking my account for no reason, I'll be looking in to a nice foil etched Sidar Kondo... >_>

Mcat1999 This I want to see!

As soon as I saw Stadium, I was like ah, Edric, Spymaster of Trest has found a new and probably less-annoying win-con...

enpc Let's leave tired jokes in 2006 yeah?

These MDFCs, if any good, I think are just going to push the already prevalent trend of jamming as much value as possible in your command zone. Partners, Companion, and Eminence are the other two offenders. EDH was always going to go in this direction since the commander a free, always accessible card, but these mechanics really narrow down the available commanders for good archetypes because why NOT just run two Partners or a MDFC to have access to different cards in the command zone?

This makes it so that the most viable commanders are always either 1), a commander who is essentially a combo or engine piece for the rest of the deck; or 2), two partner commanders or a MDFC because it just gets you more value than any other option. The first one is always going to be a thing, but the second one pushes out a lot of other good options.

Luckily EDH is also about creativity so you can choose to just build flavorful decks instead of optimized ones, but it's pretty annoying to see WotC allowing the power creep of Standard to just leak into the command zone, IMO. Like Mtg_Mega_Nerds, I prefer the flavor of an EDH deck having one legendary commander at the helm of a thematic deck. And like, I'm also a person who also built a 4c Tymna/Thrasios combo deck, so.

Plus as a Vorthos player the MDFCs annoy me in that there's no flavor or mechanics between the two sides. It's just two things slapped together. No reason except that they're somewhat related, no mechanical or lore reason that they would "transform" from one to the other or be mutually exclusive. idk they're just weird cards

I love Rip Apart and Quintorius, Field Historian . This is the direction I like to see WotC taking Boros.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of these MDFCs at all. They don't feel flavorful and it's messy to keep track of. I would support not allowing players to cast instants or sorceries from the command zone.

Quintorius, Field Historian is in the database now! Love the idea here can't wait to see how you finalize it! He seems like a lot of fun.

It's a little silly, but maybe Remorseful Cleric would be a good include. It's a spirit, plus graveyard hate, and if you need to you can exile your own GY for a bunch of dudes!

A thing of beauty!

It's a pretty cool card. I wish it had flash, but I like that they're branching into hand hate for white.

I didn't even notice it was PVDDR! Guess we know what he'll look like in a few decades?

It might even be able to replace some number of Inquisition of Kozilek or Thoughtseize instead if you're confident you know which cards to name. Also works somewhat decently with Mishra's Bauble . The problem is that you have to wait a turn to sac, so maybe it would work best as a 2-of or something as a lategame lock piece.