Will Cyclonic Rift return my cards that were exiled adn then played by Nightveil Specter or Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver

Asked by mdscientist 11 years ago

Still learning about MTG. I am hoping CR will provide counterplay against this type of card.

wcdorrell says... #1

November 17, 2013 2:20 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #2

"Permanents" only exist on the battlefield. Cards in any other zone (including exile) aren't permanents, so Cyclonic Rift can't affect them.

November 17, 2013 2:21 p.m.

Devonin says... Accepted answer #3

However, given that they specified "and then played" they WILL be permanents.

And since you don't control them, they will be effected by Cyclonic Rift which will return them to their OWNER's (in this case your) hand. Anything they've exiled and since played will come back to your own hand.

November 17, 2013 2:22 p.m.

wcdorrell says... #4

yes if they were stolen, then you don't control them. And when they are returned to a hand, they are returned to their owner's hand, not their controller's hand.

November 17, 2013 2:22 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #5

Sorry, I didn't read the whole question.

November 17, 2013 2:24 p.m.

wcdorrell says... #6

It is good to note, however, that any cards still in exile will remain in exile, with no Nightveil Specter or Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver to play them with.

November 17, 2013 2:27 p.m.

shadowdart says... #7

All the non-land permanents will be returned to your hand, yes

November 17, 2013 3:05 p.m.

Goody says... #8

Also: If he exiled a card with Nightveil Specter and you then bounce the specter, he cannot cast that card if he replays the Nightveil Specter , as the specter is now considered a new permanent and is no longer linked to the exiled card.

November 17, 2013 3:55 p.m.

Exactly. The new Nightveil Specter will be considered a whole different creature/

November 17, 2013 5:03 p.m.

Alcolitox says... #10

The creatures exiled with Nightveil Specter will be in exiled, cuz they are not in the game anymore, they were Path to Exile d they're out from the game, they were removed... they will never come back :D

November 17, 2013 6:13 p.m.

shadowdart says... #11

Unless one of the exiled cards was Misthollow Griffin

November 18, 2013 1:15 a.m.

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