What happens if my opponent has infinite life and I attack with a creature with infinite Power.
Asked by iChalice 11 years ago
My opponent has a [BorosReckoner] enchanted with [GiftofOrzhova], a [FrontlineMedic], and a [BomberCorps]. He attacks with all three resulting with him having infinite life.
Now its my turn. I control a [Vitu-GhaziGuildmage], 2 [AxebaneGuardian], a [MasterBiomancer], a copy token of each Master Biomancer and Axebane Guardian, and a [Exava,RakdosBloodWitch], which results with me having infinite mana, infinite Centuar tokens with infinite Power and Toughness, infinite Axebane Guardian copies, and infinite Master Biomancer copies.
If I attack with an infinite number of creatures with infinite Power, will my opponent still have infinite life?
Whenever someone has "infinite" something, it's not really infinite, but rather an arbitrarily large number. In this case, all you have to make clear is that you have more creatures/power than they have life. Most people name a number to avoid this situation.
January 11, 2014 9:01 p.m.
in other words, the infinite life combo would rather be more like declaring that you have a extraordinarily high amount of life such as 900,000 Life. So I just have to say that i power up my creature to 10 above how much you decided to increase your life by with the infinite life combo?
January 11, 2014 9:05 p.m.
Yes. Any time you create a stoppable loop, you declare how many times you are going to loop it. You can't gain "infinite life" you have to name an actual number, which becomes your life total.
January 11, 2014 9:11 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #5
Truly infinite loops that don't meet one of the SBA for victory at some point result in a tie since they cannot be stopped. With most "infinite combos" they are able to be broken at some point so a large yet finite number must be declared. So who ever gets to declare their number later gets to declare the higher number. In your case you simply declare that if they gained 10 million life you are attacking with 20 million 10/10 Centaurs or some such.
January 11, 2014 9:27 p.m.
In a situation like that, I choose to name a number higher than my opponent is likely to understand, such as Graham's Number or something even more ridiculous, like take a googolplex raised to the power of Graham's number, and use that value as (n), where (n) is the number of up-arrows to use in Knuth's up-arrow notation to express (G)(n)(G) to the power of [(G)(n)(G)], where G = Graham's Number.
Ya' know, just in case.
January 12, 2014 1:12 a.m.
t_taylor1986 says... #7
Its a catch 22. You two would tie, because he can make however much life he wants by a loop that will never end and you can keep hitting him with your never ending creatures (-3 from his blockers that are indestructible). He would gain more life from blocking those 3 and gain even more life starting the loop over again. There would be no killing either one of you. No need to put a number to anything if it can continue forever.
January 12, 2014 1:49 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
@t_taylor1986: That's incorrect. Please see the above answers for an explanation.
January 12, 2014 1:53 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #9
@MagnusMTG: I tried this before and my playgroup simply got around it by saying "I make double the tokens as you have life"
January 12, 2014 7:10 a.m.
@Gidgetimer: Yep, it's like old "infinity plus one" comeback.
Also fun is to choose to make 94 quadrillion tokens, as that is approximately the number of Magic card-sized objects that it would take to cover the surface of the Earth.
iChalice says... #1
My bad BorosReckoner Gift of Orzhova Frontline Medic Bomber Corps Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage Axebane Guardian Master Biomancer Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch
January 11, 2014 8:54 p.m.