undying evil infinite combo?

Asked by Serion 13 years ago

Okay so if I have a Mikaeus, the LunarchMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Lunarch on the field with one counter and a Urabrask the Hidden MTG Card: Urabrask the Hidden out. Can I then play Undying EvilMTG Card: Undying Evil on Mikaeus, the LunarchMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Lunarch and use his remove a counter ability infinitely to pump my whole side?

mafteechr says... #1

No.

When Mikaeus, the LunarchMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Lunarch returns to the battlefield, he will no longer have undying. When a permanent changes zones, it becomes a new object and forgets it's previous existence.

March 19, 2012 10:17 a.m.

mafteechr says... Accepted answer #2

Here is the corresponding rule:

400.7. An object that moves from one zone to another becomes a new object with no memory of, or relation to, its previous existence. There are seven exceptions to this rule.

None of the exceptions apply to this situation.

March 19, 2012 10:36 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #3

What if you added mikaeus the unhallowed to this?

March 19, 2012 11:18 a.m.

Serion says... #4

the black mikaeus gives undying to all non-humans unfortunately.

March 19, 2012 11:23 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #5

Gah you're right (thought it was two seperate static abilities my bad need to read).

March 19, 2012 11:28 a.m.

jkarnes says... #6

If you had say... Artificial EvolutionMTG Card: Artificial Evolution in the mix... walks away whistling

March 19, 2012 12:51 p.m.

SplodyCopter says... #7

again, once it dies and comes back, it's a human again.

March 19, 2012 12:55 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #8

Although ConspiracyMTG Card: Conspiracy ..... ok now i want to make an edh deck where this is possible

March 19, 2012 1 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #9

nvm still wouldnt work unless you had out heartless summoning GAH!

March 19, 2012 1:01 p.m.

If you use Artificial EvolutionMTG Card: Artificial Evolution on Mikaeus, the UnhallowedMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed to make it give undying to a different set of creatures (say, non-Salamander or something...), then it would work.

March 19, 2012 1:24 p.m.

jkarnes says... #11

Epochalyptik understood my point.

ConspiracyMTG Card: Conspiracy works exceptionally well for the concept, a way to get around super shenanigans would be to play deck:sakashima-the-imposter and copy Mikaeus, the UnhallowedMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed which would give the real Mikaeus, the UnhallowedMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed Undying too.

March 19, 2012 3:33 p.m.

Serion says... #12

wouldn't Artificial EvolutionMTG Card: Artificial Evolution also give you hate against any creature type with Mikaeus, the UnhallowedMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed's second ability? for example could i change non-human to non-elf, AND also destroy all elves that deal damage to me?

March 19, 2012 4:28 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #13

HAHA that would just be mean...

March 19, 2012 4:28 p.m.

jkarnes says... #14

Serion: Yes it would. You could say that Artificial EvolutionMTG Card: Artificial Evolution is replacing all instances of the type "Human" with "Elf" which would affect both his abilities.

March 19, 2012 5:15 p.m.

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