Thought-Knot Seer and Herald of Kozilek

Asked by Weird_Frisbee 9 years ago

I have a question regarding my U/R Eldrazi Midrange deck, specifically Herald of Kozilek and Thought-Knot Seer.

Herald reduces colorless spells by but recently lands, and creature-tap abilities, add the colorless symbol. And Seer has that symbol in his cost.

So, if I have a Herald out and a Seer in my hand, can I just pay the generic and avoid needing a Wastes or other land like Corrupted Crossroads to pay for the Seer? Because the symbol is now a colorless mana symbol.

I'm just curious if this is actually correct or not because that could be big for my standard deck. If it's not, i'm not heartbroken.

Thanks for any insights into my question!

Epochalyptik says... #1

is not the same as .

represents generic mana. This is a form of cost that can be paid with any type of mana, including colored or colorless.

represents colorless mana. This is a type of mana that can be produced and/or required as a cost.

Herald of Kozilek reduces costs of colorless spells by . Not by .

May 19, 2016 7:56 p.m.

Mantipper says... Accepted answer #2

Epochalyptik's response is correct, but I'd like to elaborate on what I believe your confusion is.

Where you are confusing the difference is the errata to mana producing sources that generate colorless, such as Ancient Tomb, to say they produce instead of . If Herald of Kozilek specified a specific type of mana, as Ragemonger does, it would use that symbol. Colorless is different in that it never had a symbol before, so no cards currently (to my knowledge) reduce colorless type costs of cards.

May 19, 2016 10:32 p.m.

Weird_Frisbee says... #3

Alrighty cool, I was just wondering cause the idea popped into my head. Thanks guys.

May 20, 2016 1:04 a.m.