Interaction between Araumi of the Dead Tide and Mirkwood Bats
Asked by CamraMaan 6 months ago
If I encore Mirkwood Bats with Araumi of the Dead Tide will the token copies that enter play trigger off each other, or do they already have to be established in play before they trigger on another token ETBing? I know if the card triggered off a proper ETB they would all see each other, but written as it is I'm not as sure. Thanks in advance!
Can you explain that a little further...? I'm assuming Mirkwood Bats will trigger when I encore a creature via Araumi, correct? They both say "create", so I'm assuming that flies. But is there an example that can help...? And thank you for the help!
October 2, 2023 6:12 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #3
Encore creates tokens, what you are wanting to do with Mirkwood Bats works. I shouldn't have mentioned anything about when a token ETB isn't creating a token, but sometimes I worry about stuff outside the scope of questions.
If you cast a creature and then cast Double Major (as an example) on it, a copy of the creature spell is created on the stack. When the copy of the spell resolves it becomes a token permanent since there is no card representing the spell. However; for things that care about creating tokens, the token that the copy becomes was not "created".
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
They will trigger off of each other. Mirkwood Bats has a special case ETB and it can be treated as any other ETB. Encore has you create the tokens for each opponent and they are all created at the same time, so they will each see themselves and each other being created.
Not related to this question, but where you are going to have to be careful with Mirkwood Bats triggers is that copies of permanent spells become tokens, but that is not the same as creating a token.
October 1, 2023 7:52 p.m.