Hivestone, Frogify, Cloudshredder Sliver & Celestial Mantle

Asked by Swebb87 2 years ago

Hi. If an opponent has a creature in play which I enchant with a Frogify, however they have Cloudshredder Sliver in play and a Hivestone and then further enchant their creature with a Celestial Mantle does it become a flying sliver with +3/+3 and the effect of doubling the controller's life total in addition to being a 1/1 frog?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

If the boardstate is EXACTLY as you described, your opponent will have a 4/4 frog and it's controller's life total will be doubled when it deals combat damage to a player.

The reason for this is that an object's characteristics are applied in a series of layers and then within those layers in timestamp order. Since you played the Frogify after the Hivestone the creature gains the creature type sliver and then loses all creature types besides "frog". Cloudshredder Sliver will not apply since it isn't a sliver. The Celestial Mantle will actually have all of its effects no matter the timestamp because Frogify sets the base P/T and Mantle gives a buff instead of modifying base; and the life doubling ability is not granted to the creature.

January 16, 2022 6:23 p.m.