Fog and Blockers
Asked by jonnyfive82 13 years ago
Forgive me if this seems like a wierd question. I am still fairly new to the game :)
I was playing a 2 headed giant game the other day and the following happened:
Our opponents had 7 possible blockers, we had 10 attackers, they were down to only 4 hp and would not have enough blockers to prevent lethal damage. We attack with all our attackers and our opponent taps his elvish archdruid and plays a fog before declaring blockers, leaving all of my guys tapped, the next turn they win the game because all of our creatures are tapped.
This brings up a few questions:
- Do you not need to have enough blockers to prevent all damage with a fog? (Seems a little overpowered for a one cost card)
- I had a creature in play that had protection from green and black, is he not affected by the fog?
Fog does exactly what it says on the card - prevents all combat damage for the turn. That's the damage the attackers AND the blockers deal, it works both ways. If all combat damage is being prevented, it doesn't matter whether your opponent blocks or not, they still take no damage.
To your second question, Protection from (something) covers four basic things: Can't be damaged by (something), enchanted or equipped by (something), blocked by (something) or targeted by (something). Since Fog doesn't do any of these things ( it's a 'blanket' effect), Protection doesn't affect it at all, and your Mirran Crusader won't deal any damage.
May 23, 2011 12:04 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... Accepted answer #3
Fog , just for reference.
- No, you don't. Fog does exactly what it says - it prevents all combat damage that turn, whether it's dealt to creatures or players. You could have the card, declare no blockers to a 15-creature army, and cast Fog and be fine.It is strong, but it's limited by the fact that it's, well, limited - it only lasts that turn. You also have to have it in your hand when you need it. Once you're aware of it, you know to "play around" it by being careful in how you attack; not leaving yourself completely open, etc. It's a great teacher of the "don't overextend" principle in that regard.
- Protection won't protect the guy from fog. Protection stops a subset of things that can be remembered with the acronym "DEBT".D - Damage: This creature can't be dealt damage by anything with the quality it's protected from.E - Enchanted/Equipped: It can't be enchanted by auras of that color, for instance, or pick up equipment if it's got protection from artifacts.B - Blocking: It can't be blocked by creatures of the given quality.T - Targeted: It can't be targeted by things of the particular quality, sort of giving it a form of shroud.
Effects that don't fall into these categories can still slip through. Day of Judgment , for instance, neither targets nor deals damage, so a Phyrexian Crusader is still destroyed by a Day even though it has protection.
In this case, Fog not only doesn't target or damage your protection from green'd creature, it doesn't even directly affect him. All it says is that there's not combat damage this turn; your creature goes about its business normally, Fog has just shut off a part of the normal game rules for a turn.
melbicimni says... #1
1) Blockers has nothing to do with whether or not fog works. It simply prevents all damage.
2) That creature does not do any damage.
For #1, Fog just says "prevent all combat damage" not "prevent all combat damage if your opponent has enough blockers". You do what the card says.
For #2, Protection prevents targeting, damage, blocking, and enchanting/equipping where applicable. Since Fog doesn't target, its effect still applies.
May 23, 2011 12:03 p.m.