Converted mana costs of cloned creatures
Asked by Arrzarr 13 years ago
I was playtesting a deck which casts a an Elvish Archdruid and then copies it relentlessly and my opponent got a Steel Hellkite through the net and used the -x ability to blow up all creatures with converted mana cost 3.
The Elvish Archdruid s would be destroyed if X was 3 but:
What about creatures created by Rite of Replication . As far as I know, these have all the properties of Elvish Archdruid , including the CMC.
Also, what about cloned creatures? If I had a Phyrexian Metamorph out, does it have a CMC of 3 or 4?
Thanks for the help. Does this also mean that the colour of the metamorph is green?
August 11, 2011 6:29 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #3
Yes. Unless specifically stated that the clone retains or has any values not of the copied card, all characteristics are inherited from the original card. It is important to note that color is determined by mana cost in addition to altering effects, such as on Ghostfire .
Tl;dr: it will be green.
August 11, 2011 7 p.m.
To be more specific:
105.2. An object can be one or more of the five colors, or it can be no color at all. An object is the color or colors of the mana symbols in its mana cost, regardless of the color of its frame.
The color of a card is determined by it's mana cost. Unless otherwise stated. Such as the Ghostfire example above. So, when Phyrexian Metamorph copies Elvish Archdruid , Phyrexian Metamorph 's mana cost becomes 1GG, and so it become green.
Wakleon says... Accepted answer #1
From the comprehensive rules:
706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original objects characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by as . . . enters the battlefield and as . . . is turned face up abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.
TLDR: The copies of Elvish Archdruid copy all the printed text on the card. So they would have the same converted mana cost. Likewise, if a Phyrexian Metamorph becomes a copy of Elvish Archdruid , it would have a CMC of 3, not the original 4.
August 11, 2011 6:24 p.m.