can i get infinite bounce and cheat into the bf triggers with cloudstone curio + cryptic gateway + nest invader (or any other token producer)?

Asked by Chino90 2 years ago

I have both Cloudstone Curio and Cryptic Gateway on the BF. I play Nest Invader . I get the ETB trigger to generate a token, plus the curio tigger. I resolve the token trigger, which triggers an aditional curio trigger (the other still on the stack). Having 2 eldrazi, I activate the gateway's ability, and I put the gateways' ability on the stack.

Now that I have these triggers on the stack (2 curio 1 gateway), can I put them in the order "curio, gateway, curio", to bounce the nest invader to my hand, cheat it again with gateway, and chose not to resolve the second curio trigger?

Omniscience_is_life says... #1

As soon as an ability with a target goes on the stack, its targets must be chosen

June 14, 2021 8:08 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #2

Omniscience_is_life: Nothing in the interaction targets.

This interaction doesn't work because you are mixing activated and triggered abilities. Anytime a trigger triggers it is put on the stack before a player receives priority. This means that the second curio trigger will go on the stack before you can activate Cryptic Gateway . So gateway will go on the top of the stack and will have to resolve before you are able to bounce anything. To get infinite bounce/etb/cheat the creature needs to make two tokens, such as Beetleback Chief .

June 14, 2021 8:17 p.m.

Omniscience_is_life says... #3

Oopsies! That's what I get for trying to answer things while cooking ;)

June 14, 2021 8:22 p.m.