Can an Aura entering the battlefield enchant a shrouded creature?

Asked by jotjot 6 years ago

So i have The Ur-Dragon and Steely Resolve choosing Dragons to have shroud on the battlefield, then i attack. Its triggered ability triggers, drawing card/s then putting a permanent on the battlefield. I choose to put Runes of the Deus/Phyresis. Can I enchant it for the killing blow?

Caerwyn says... Accepted answer #1

The answer is yes, but it's a bit odd. Normally, when you cast an Aura, you target a creature with the Aura, and, once the spell resolves, it enters as a permanent attached to that creature.

But the Ur-Dragon bypasses the casting process, and your creature is never the target of a spell. The aura enters the battlefield without a target, and can automatically be attached to a creature without having ever targeted it. If no legal creatures exist for the aura to enchant, the aura will leave the battlefield.

It's super weird, but that's just how things work.

January 18, 2018 9:07 a.m.

jotjot says... #2

thanks sir, may i ask the reference or the rule number that you got this explanation? thanks!

January 18, 2018 9:19 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #3

Rule 303.4f - If an Aura is entering the battlefield under a players control by any means other than by resolving as an Aura spell, and the effect putting it onto the battlefield doesnt specify the object or player the Aura will enchant, that player chooses what it will enchant as the Aura enters the battlefield. The player must choose a legal object or player according to the Auras enchant ability and any other applicable effects.

Rule 702.18a - Shroud is a static ability. Shroud means This permanent or player cant be the target of spells or abilities.

Under Rule 702.18a, Shroud only protects against spells or abilities that target an opponent. The attachment of an Aura under Rule 303.4f is neither a spell nor an ability, nor does it include the word target in the rules language.

January 18, 2018 9:37 a.m.

jotjot says... #4

thank you very much!

January 18, 2018 10:02 a.m.

Neotrup says... #5

Small correction, if there's nothing for the aura to enchant, it stays in it's current zone (ie, your hand), it never enters the battlefield or leaves it, so any triggered abilities won't trigger.

303.4g If an Aura is entering the battlefield and there is no legal object or player for it to enchant, the Aura remains in its current zone, unless that zone is the stack. In that case, the Aura is put into its owner's graveyard instead of entering the battlefield.

January 18, 2018 1:36 p.m.

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