Bloodrush
Asked by daniferrito 11 years ago
Ok, i have a few questions about bloodrush (the ability from Ghor-Clan Rampager and a few other cards).
What is bloodrush? Is it an ability, or an spell? If it is a spell, it can be countered by cards like Cancel , but it will trigger heroic. However, it it is an ability, it cannot be countered so easily, but it wont trigger heroic. Btw, if it is an ability is there something that can counter it (other than making the target illegal). Bestow cards (Observant Alseid ) specify that casting for bestow cost turns it into an aura SPELL, but bloodrush doesent say anything
Also, to be sure i am doing it right, using bloodrush means i pay the cost, select target creature, and discard the card (from the hand). Abilities that trigger when someone discard a card will trigger (Liliana's Caress ).
Also, should i post multiple questions together, to avoid filling the questions feed, or should i separate them so they can be answered easier?
Stifle and/or other effects that counter activated abilities will counter Bloodrush
October 23, 2013 10:30 a.m.
Bloodrush is an ability, not a spell. There are a few cards like Stifle that can counter abilities.
Discarding the card can only be done from your hand, and is already part of the cost of Bloodrush. So yes, abilities that care about discarding will see a card discarded.
There isn't a hard and fast rule to posting multiple questions, as far as I know. If they are unrelated, probably better to separate them, but if its like this, its probably fine.
October 23, 2013 10:32 a.m.
Absinthman says... #4
Bloodrush is indeed an activated ability. When you use it, you are not casting any spells. Think of it as Cycling, but instead of drawing a card, you give your creatures buffs. It won't trigger heroic and can only be countered by Stifle
and cards with similar effect. The process of using that you state is correct, and discarding a card this way will trigger abilities such as Liliana's Caress
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If your questions are related to each other, you can post them in a single thread. If you have multiple questions regarding different topics, it's better to separate them.
October 23, 2013 10:33 a.m.
Also, Pithing Needle can be used to prevent Blood Rush abilities by naming the card, such as Ghor-Clan Rampager .
Pithing Needle prevents all non-mana activated abilities of the named card, not just cards on the Battlefield.
October 23, 2013 11:49 a.m.
I thought I heard before that Bloodrush was a special effect, like morph, and that unlike abilities it doesn't use the stack.... I believe it was something Epochalyptik said (so i'm calling on him) in response to another question. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm vaguely remembering something else and confusing it, thinking it was bloodrush that was being talked about.
October 23, 2013 12:30 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #7
I think pithing needle can indeed shut down bloodrush, after all it says that sources with said name can't use their abilities and not permanents with said name.
So yes, you could do that.
October 23, 2013 12:40 p.m.
That's why I'm hoping Epoch sees my comment and responds, because if it is a special effect like I'm vaguely recalling seeing that it was, then it wouldn't be an activated ability and Pithing Needle wouldn't work.
October 23, 2013 12:51 p.m.
GreatSword says... #10
There's only 6 Special actions in the game of Magic, defined in 115.2 of the rules (playing a land, morph, rollling a die in Planechase, etc). Bloodrush it not one of them. Bloodrush is an activated ability, so it can be stopped by Pithing Needle .
October 23, 2013 1:13 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #11
@abenz419: Bloodrush is an activated ability. It is not a special action.
October 23, 2013 1:31 p.m.
ok then I must be vaguely remember something else and have just been thinking that it was bloodrush. HMMMMM, now I wonder what it is that I'm actually remembering lol.
Dallie says... #1
Bloodrush is an activated ability that you can only use while the card with bloodrush is in your hand.
You've got the part about using bloodrush right.
Whichever floats your boat.
October 23, 2013 10:30 a.m.