AEtherling and Whip of Erebos
Asked by chrizzilla 11 years ago
So, I was curious about how these two cards would work. Say, for some reason, my AEtherling is in the graveyard (perhaps he got milled out, I dunno). I use Whip of Erebos ' to bring him to the battlefield. Either at end of turn or when my opponent tries some shenanigans, I activate AEtherling 's first ability, exiling him. The way I understand it, the whip will replace this exile effect with its own, removing the "comes back to the battlefield at the next end of turn". Is this correct? I read somewhere that these two cards will synergize, but unless I am misunderstanding the wording of the cards, I don't think that's the case.
chrizzilla says... #2
I though "instead" meant "replace that effect with this one"?
From the comprehensive rules:
419.1a Effects that use the word "instead" are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word "instead" to indicate what events will be replaced with other events and use the word "skip" to indicate what events, steps, phases, or turns will be replaced with nothing.
and
419.5. If an event is prevented or replaced, it never happens. A modified event occurs instead, which may in turn trigger abilities. Note that the modified event may contain instructions that can't be carried out, in which case the player simply ignores the impossible instruction.
Do I just not understand replacement effects then?
October 4, 2013 2:31 p.m.
GreatSword says... #3
The whip's replacement effect only works of the card is going somewhere else, besides exile. If it would be Time Ebb 'd, it'd get exiled instead of going to the library. If it was Unsummon 'd it would be exiled instead of going to the hand. If it was Path to Exile 'd, Whip's replacement effect won't do anything, because the creature is going to exile. Same thing with AEtherling ; the creature is going to exile, so Whip doesn't do anything, and AEtherling 's ability will resolve as normal.
GreatSword says... Accepted answer #1
Whip of Erebos says "if it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else". AEtherling exiles itself already, so when it goes to exile, Whip's replacement effect won't apply. The blinking AEtherling will be able to come back normally.
This also works with Obzedat, Ghost Council if you properly stack the EoT triggers (IE: make Obzedat's resolve first).
October 4, 2013 2:21 p.m.