THE Modern Format Primer

Modern ChiefBell

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Update (Change 2) —April 7, 2015

Decks Added: Loam

GlistenerAgent says... #1

No, it's not. It has had some success in the hands of a strong pilot, but it is by no means consistent enough to be Tier 1.

February 5, 2015 12:32 p.m.

Hjaltrohir says... #2

Maybe tier 1.5 deck because I can't see how such a popular deck with a high win rate can be tier 2.

February 5, 2015 12:34 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #3

Tier 1.5 sounds right. Lacks some consistency but undeniably strong.

February 5, 2015 12:46 p.m.

nbarry223 says... #4

You still need to rephrase the one part in it also.

"Chalice of the Void and Engineered Explosives are devastating against almost every other modern deck, and they barely affect Bloom Titan given that it plays virtually no permanents besides lands, Amulet of Vigor and the titan" is simply misleading. Chalice of the Void interacts with far more than permanents which is what makes it so powerful. The general deckbuilding strategy of "curving out" backfires when Chalice of the Void is used.

I'd rephrase it as something like:

Chalice of the Void and Engineered Explosives are powerful against almost every other modern deck, due to the mana curve of most other decks. Most modern decks play lots of cheap, efficient spells to win games, while Bloom Titan only cares about Amulet of Vigor and Summoner's Pact in it's lower CMC slots, both of which it can function without.

February 5, 2015 12:59 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #5

Sorry, I'm ill at the moment. I promise I will do it when I have a chance.

February 5, 2015 1:56 p.m.

Psyloarchy says... #6

Excuse me, but why did you remove the jeskai ascendancy deck from the primer?

February 8, 2015 8:06 p.m.

GlistenerAgent says... #7

Because it's not really relevant anymore. No one played it at the Pro Tour, and banning the delve spells did a number on its consistency.

February 8, 2015 8:08 p.m.

Psyloarchy says... #8

GlistenerAgent, well damn... I was planning to get into modern if ascendancy. Here's my deck if you want to laugh at it An Attempt at Ascendancy

February 8, 2015 9:37 p.m.

I dont think amulet bloom combo is simply tier 2; after coming in second during the pro tour it at least deserves 1.5

February 10, 2015 9:28 p.m.

Dekordius says... #10

Might I make a suggestion? A link to an example of each deck under the primer for it would be excellent for playtesters and new players alike.

February 13, 2015 7:17 a.m.

bijschjdbcd says... #11

That is in the process of be applied.

February 13, 2015 7:26 a.m.

Dekordius says... #12

Awesome, thanks.

February 13, 2015 7:50 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #13

Yes. We have individual people working on longer deck primers that will be linked to. What we will not be doing is linking to personal decklists, as this would be a form of advertising which is a little unfair. So any links to decks in primer sections have to be informational, not promotional.

February 13, 2015 7:55 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #14

I'll be doing some big work on this tomorrow.

February 13, 2015 7:56 a.m.

Dekordius says... #15

Well, what I was looking for was just an example of a deck of that archetype that I could playtest against in order to improve my own Modern deck. If you could either make an example from scratch or copy from mtgtop8, that would probably enough of a middle ground in terms of avoiding advertising.

February 13, 2015 8:11 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #16

Yeh that's the idea. Which deck is it, out of interest?

February 13, 2015 8:36 a.m.

Dekordius says... #17

Absolute jank, but I don't have fun knowing that other people are running the same thing or close to it. Still undergoing heavy testing and iteration, since right now it is... less than optimal.


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February 13, 2015 8:40 a.m.

Dekordius says... #18

(Feel free to clean that comment out after taking a look. I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable self-advertising on a primer, of all things)

February 13, 2015 8:41 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #19

Sorry my meaning was - what do you want to playtest against? Or is it just everything?

February 13, 2015 8:46 a.m.

Dekordius says... #20

Oh, whoops. Definitely clear it out then.

Yeah, I'm still fairly new to the modern format, so the best way to ensure that anything I make can compete with the meta is to directly test it against the meta (everything in the meta)- since I lack the experience to look at something and tell its matchups at a glance.

February 13, 2015 8:52 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #21

Oh right ok. Fair enough. Yeh that'll take time.

February 13, 2015 8:57 a.m.

JRaynor says... #22

Dekord I posted a link on your wall that you might find useful in the interim.

February 13, 2015 9 a.m.

Dekordius says... #23

Yeah. I'm just glad to hear you guys are working on it.

And I saw that Jray- thanks man.

February 13, 2015 9:07 a.m.

What is a "primer?" With the ban list updates.

February 22, 2015 1:24 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #25

A 'primer' is an instructional text that tells you how to do something. A deck primer tells you how to play a deck. A format primer tells you about a format. The 'ban list update' part of the title refers to the fact that recently certain cards were banned in modern and the primer has been updated to reflect that.

February 22, 2015 1:31 p.m.