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Said on Death and Staxes...

#1

Isochron Scepter and Orim's Chant aren't really a trick with the trinispheres...

February 23, 2017 4:20 a.m.

Said on Force of Nature...

#2

Tyr_W, thanks for these structured suggestions!

I will play Titania's Song and probably Null Rod in the future, so I will reduce my own artifacts as much as possible. Probably only keeping the swirds and jitte, sol ring and lotus petal. I play the full artifact power package in every other deck so I try to do something different here and go fully against these essential artifacts everyone plays.

Concordant crossroads, great...didn't remember the name! Might replace the boots (when null rod makes too many equipments obsolete)

I didn't know overwhelming stampede yet, that's perfect. Good spell for Rishkar's Expertise

February 21, 2017 4:46 p.m.

Said on Force of Nature...

#3

Tyr_W, thanks for these structured suggestions!

I will play Titania's Song and probably Null Rod in the future, so I will reduce my own artifacts as much as possible. Probably only keeping the swirds and jitte, sol ring and lotus petal. I play the full artifact power package in every other deck so I try to do something different here and go fully against these essential artifacts everyone plays.

Concordant crossroads, great...didn't remember the name! Might replace the boots (when null rod makes too many equipments obsolete)

I didn't know overwhelming stampede yet, that's perfect. Good spell for Rishkar's Expertise

February 21, 2017 4:46 p.m.

Said on Force of Nature...

#4

Tyr_W, thanks for these structured suggestions!

I will play Titania's Song and probably Null Rod in the future, so I will reduce my own artifacts as much as possible. Probably only keeping the swirds and jitte, sol ring and lotus petal. I play the full artifact power package in every other deck so I try to do something different here and go fully against these essential artifacts everyone plays.

Concordant crossroads, great...didn't remember the name! Might replace the boots (when null rod makes too many equipments obsolete)

I didn't know overwhelming stampede yet, that's perfect. Good spell for Rishkar's Expertise

February 21, 2017 4:46 p.m.

Said on Force of Nature...

#5

I know, I'm missing one card in this list...I have ordered a beastmaster ascencion today, this could be nice, thanks. I think I can test it tomorrow with some othr cards and next week as it is listed here because I am waiting for some letters to arrive. 30 euro investment for a probably huge improvement is quite ok.

February 21, 2017 12:57 p.m.

TheRedGoat I know that the mana lock can be done with two cards, titanias song would just give everyone some additional vanilla creatures for tactical beatdown in the multiplayer round, lol.

It depends on whom you play with, but we've already had an early game Zur's Weirding, which left everyone at zero cards in hand after some wheel effect (not a draw7 but draw nothing then) and some other pretty chaotic global locks...I wouldn't want to play these games every week but once in a while it's fun. And I think the player who traded me his titanias song is expecting me to build a weird deck with it, because we've already been discussing the potential locks while trading.

February 21, 2017 10:47 a.m.

I might need some suggestions for my new deck. It's a mono budget pile, only made from stuff I had lying around without additional purchases. The commander itself is just a cheap and big beater, to further convince other players that this deck is not too dangerous.


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Commander / EDH* Winterblast

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February 21, 2017 6:18 a.m.

I can see why you are not winning. It depends on your budget how you are going to fix that...how much do you want to spend on the deck? It's not that you have to spend a lot to win, you just have access to more strategies with a higher budget.

What you must add is Smokestack (+Sundial of the Infinite) and Tangle Wire. I would also use Strionic Resonator as it can not only double their effects but the ability of your commander too.

For further suggestions it would be interesting how high your budget is. You have to try and get the average converted mana cost below 3 imo and that's much easier when you can buy the full set of commander legal mana artifacts for .

February 21, 2017 6:14 a.m.

Said on The Transported Man...

#9

I would include some instant/sorcery removals for enchantments and artifacts. Torpor Orb or Humility would ruin the whole deck and you depend on creatures to get rid of anything...

February 20, 2017 8:50 a.m.

Said on Oona....

#10

This looks like a lot of fun to play. Withering Boon seems a bit out of place though...you could just play False Summoning over it, or any other better counterspell - you have blue available anyway!

February 20, 2017 8:46 a.m.

Smokestack + Sundial of the Infinite: add counter, pass the turn before second ability resolves - opponent sacs and has to draw, you don't. The win happens eventually because your opponent draws and you skip the draw.

Mycosynth Lattice + March of the Machines: makes all lands 0/0 creatures. Also Mycosynth Lattice + Null Rod disables all mana sources...total lockdown, need to build a deck that can actually profit from that, lol.

Helm of Obedience + Leyline of the Void or Rest in Peace

Mechanized Production + Tangle Wire or Sphere of Resistance

Humility + Moat to completely disable creature based actions (one of my favourites)

February 20, 2017 8:39 a.m.

My preferred archetype is definitely control, especially proactive control, which keeps the opponent(s) from playing at all or disables certain actions/card functions permanently, instead of just reacting to their spells. Actually these strategies always require some "combos", not in the form of recurring actions but rather as a permanent lock. At the moment I'm playing mostly commander and that strategy is imo the best to keep people from randomly ending games with some out of the blue combo in a generic midrange aggro deck (Tooth and Nail for example), which requires no skill or even thinking, given you have enough mana and luck of the draw.

One of my favourite combos at the moment is Mechanized Production and Tangle Wire (or Sphere of Resistance, Lodestone Golem, Thorn of Amethyst...). It basically slows down the game long enough to win with the alternative win condition of the enchantment.

Smokestack and Sundial of the Infinite is an all time favourite for me: add a counter, pass the turn before second ability resolves - everyone else sacrifices more each turn and draws cards, thus milling themselves.

Another combo I like very much is Humility and Moat, which I use in Augustin's $t4ks (2017 version). Elspeth, Knight-Errant turns the board state in your favour then, because you can fly over the moat and/or keep producing generic 1/1 creatures.

Also much fun to play is Mycosynth Lattice and Vandalblast. That's only a one time combo but as it destroys ALL permanents of all opponents, including lands...that's worth it.

The complicated Aluren combo (Imperial Recruiter/Recruiter of the Guard, Dream Stalker/Whitemane Lion, Cavern Harpy, Parasitic Strix) is great to play and also hard to disrupt. Fits in every 4 or 5 colour commander deck...

I'm currently thinking about making something with Mycosynth Lattice and Titania's Song and maybe Null Rod and March of the Machines but I need to study the layers better before I make that happen. An article about the layers would be greatly appreciated! There are quite a few card interactions that seemingly disable each other but still have a certain effect because of the layers...to know more about how this works in practice would be good in order to build an awesome combo/control deck. Especially in commander it would be cool to create a board state in which people have to hit each other with vanilla creatures while all mana sources are completely disabled or something like that, haha.

February 20, 2017 8:10 a.m.

I started in 1998 at the age of 10 when sixth edition and urza's saga were still available and I have bought the most expensive cards around 9 years ago, then took a break from the game until spring 2016. Of course I buy stuff today as well, but selling some of the more expensive cards from back then (for example I sold 3 of 4 Mishra's Workshop and two moxen) gave me a good budget for some missing commander stuff, dual lands and other top cards.

February 19, 2017 4:27 a.m.

wyatt0781 although $t4ks/Stax is also known as the 4000$ solution, I didn't spent that much - but today it's obviously worth that much. I'm sure you get everything much cheaper on magiccardmarket and eBay than the price here on this page suggests but you surely won't get a Tabernacle for 70 euro anymore...I should have bought more back then, not just one

February 18, 2017 5:27 p.m.

Said on Workshop Party...

#15

I don't have a Liliana yet, but I believe I have removed Sorin for something else, I think it was Maze of Ith because of the Atraxa infect deck one guy plays. I'm currently playing UW again as this deck is basically finished...after optimizing the current build I can quickly switch between decks. I have all the cards for my Stax lists in the same sleeves so I can easily exchange the cards and play with different decks within minutes. For that I just need to optimize all the builds I want to use and update the list online correctly.

February 13, 2017 4:20 a.m.

Unrealityisreal that's really great to hear! Did you come across any cards that were not as powerful as they should have been?

February 10, 2017 5:07 a.m.

With so Little mana accelaration a creature(!) based carddraw for is really not good. With This commander you want to play all sorts of wheel effects instead: Wheel of Fortune, Windfall, Wheel of Fate, Memory Jar, Winds of Change, Dark Deal maybe...Yawgmoth's Will is important too, maybe Magus of the Will as an alternative, if you have a limited budget (but it's not as good of course). If you don't want to play your graveyard again you should do the opposite and include another good delve draw: Dig Through Time

I don't mean to overthrow your whole deck, but with more wheels you should consider further mana accelaration such as Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Seething Song and storm spells such as Mind's Desire, Tendrils of Agony, Ignite Memories and Empty the Warrens

I personally like to play Dark Confidant, but my mana curve usually stops at 4 when I use him, with only some spells with 5, 6 or more mana. Probably not your style of drawing ;)

February 9, 2017 4:02 a.m.

Said on Workshop Party...

#18

I play commander because there's no more vintage here around and the power level of the format is somewhere between legacy and vintage. Having a budget restriction is like showing up at a modern tournament with a preconstructed deck and play it out of the box

February 8, 2017 11:07 a.m.

Said on Workshop Party...

#19

Not really Matthew_Minor91, they are both too weak for their mana cost as only their ultimate would justify their use...and I don't play any planeswalker only for their ultimate because it's very unrealistic that you get that far.

That's also the reason why I removed Venser again. Usually he is great for his + and - abilities too, but here they do too little. Sorin has to be tested yet but he is surely better than the new Tezzerets. Maybe one of the 3 mana Lilianas might go in the deck instead of Sorin though...further reducing the average cmc is always great.

February 8, 2017 7:40 a.m.

Said on Workshop Party...

#20

Matthew_Minor91 this deck is aggro-stax, meaning the goal is to not let the opponents play their decks as they want to. Energy Flux is of course a problem, but someone who plays that won't have the same reliable speed package with something like 15-20 mana rocks...stax should win the speed race against such builds.

The deck aims either at a quick combo kill or a lock with additional beatdown. Letting the opponent even cast a 6 mana spell is not part of the plan. Mycosynth Lattice is basically the defense against mass removal, since any global artifact destruction would empty the whole board then. It should be one of the top tutor targets, if not number one target, as it makes everything in my deck better (not just the best combos mentioned in.the description) and lets stuff like energy flux result in a complete reset of the game.

February 7, 2017 3:18 p.m.

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Finished Decks 12
Prototype Decks 6
Drafts 0
Playing since Classic Sixth Edition
Avg. deck rating 5.00
T/O Rank 138
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Favorite formats Legacy, Commander / EDH
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