If you copy a spell, like with Fork, do you "own" the copy?
Asked by Faiths_Guide 7 years ago
Just wanted clarification on that point. :D
Raging_Squiggle says... #2
Yes. You are both the owner and controller of the copy of the spell.
December 15, 2016 8:41 p.m.
unless stated otherwise, the controller of the spell or permanent that puts a copy of another object anywhere, the the controller of that object. Whether the object is a spell on the stack or a token copy of a permanent in play, the outcome is the same: the controller of the spell/ability that made the copy is the controller of the copied object.
December 15, 2016 11:29 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #4
To clarify what pskinn01 means: If an effect creates a token, or a copy of a spell, under a player's control, that object is both owned and controlled by that specified player. Otherwise, the controller of the copy effect is the conteroller of the copy.
706.10. To copy a spell, activated ability, or triggered ability means to put a copy of it onto the stack; a copy of a spell isn't cast and a copy of an activated ability isn't activated. A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs. (See rule 601, "Casting Spells.") Choices that are normally made on resolution are not copied. If an effect of the copy refers to objects used to pay its costs, it uses the objects used to pay the costs of the original spell or ability. A copy of a spell is owned by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell or ability is controlled by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell is itself a spell, even though it has no spell card associated with it. A copy of an ability is itself an ability.
December 16, 2016 2:20 a.m.
You are the owner of the copy:
111.2. A spells owner is the same as the owner of the card that represents it, unless its a copy. In that case, the owner of the spell is the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A spell's controller is, by default, the player who put it on the stack. Every spell has a controller.
It doesn't matter who's spell or ability makes the copy, it matters who's control the copy starts under (such as how Hive Mind can have you're ability create copies under opponent's control). Similiarly, as pskinn01 was pointing out, tokens are owned by the player who's control they entered under:
110.5a A token is both owned and controlled by the player under whose control it entered the battlefield.
So the owner of the Knight tokens created by Hunted Dragon is the opponent, not the person who played the Dragon.
Faiths_Guide says... #1
Fork
December 15, 2016 8:23 p.m.