Godo and Aurelia
Asked by Adams880 9 years ago
Let's say I have Godo, Bandit Warlord and Aurelia, the Warleader on the field. The first time I swing in that turns combat with both Godo and Aurelia, both extra combat triggers would go off, does the additional combat phase that follows count for both Aurelia and Godo? Or do I take 2 extra combat phases in a row?
Are you positive? Because I know there was an interaction with Obzedat, Ghost Council and Whip of Erebos where his exile satisfied his trigger and the Whips, so I was just making sure that the fact there was an extra combat after the first did not satisfy both their triggers, thank you.
December 29, 2014 1:52 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #3
The two situations are in no way the same.
Here, we have two triggered abilities that create something (an extra phase). If multiple extra phases (or steps) are created, they are all taken back to back because they all exist. You can't "satisfy" a triggered ability that creates something, and we aren't concerned with applying any replacement effects here.
In the other case, we have Whip of Erebos's ability creating a replacement effect that exiles the relevant creature if it would leave the battlefield or at the beginning of the next end step. Obzedat, Ghost Council's ability triggers at the beginning of the end step and allows you to exile Obzedat, Ghost Council, then return it at the beginning of your next upkeep. Exiling Obzedat, Ghost Council means that Whip of Erebos's replacement effect doesn't apply to that action because Obzedat, Ghost Council is already being exiled.
December 29, 2014 1:57 p.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #4
Epochalyptik is correct. If you swing with both at the same time, you'll get both of their triggers, and two additional combat phases.
Likewise, if any of your Samuri creatures have activated abilities that require them to tap, you could activate them after Aurelia's ability resolves, and then untap them again after Godo's (or the other way around, depending on how you stack them).
December 29, 2014 2:01 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
I can see an interpretation of the second scenario being that there are two effects that want to exile the same thing, but this isn't a case of satisfying both of those effects. Remember that an object becomes a new object every time it changes zones. If multiple spells or abilities would cause an object to move from Zone A to some other zone, then only the first one to resolve will actually perform the move. The others will look for the object in Zone A, fail to find it, and do nothing (if they have other effects, those effects will resolve as best they can). Even if the first effect causes the object to leave Zone A and then reenter Zone A (say the first spell to resolve is Cloudshift), the other effects will still fail to apply because the object that's in Zone A now is not the same object that was targeted earlier. It's a new object.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
Each ability specifies that it creates an additional combat phase. You create one additional phase per ability, meaning you get two extra phases total.
December 29, 2014 1:48 p.m.